On Feb 22, 5:26*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-02-22 17:52:17 -0500, rw said:





David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-02-22 16:59:33 -0500, rw said:

After WWII the US convicted Japanese soldiers of war crimes and
sentenced them to very harsh penalties for waterboarding. It's torture.

Perhaps. *But would YOU use it if someone kidnapped your child and
wouldn't tell you where she was? *Would you use it to save one of
yours? *There's no pain. *No lasting physical impairment. *No blood. *
Our own soldiers experienced it to help them survive interregation. *
Would you beat, hit, bite the man that knew where your child was being
kept? *Simple question, Steve. *Would you sacrifice your child or would
you waterboard the perp? *Remember -- no pain, no blood, no loss of
limbs, teeth, ears, or eyes. *Just a simple procedure that lasts less
that 15 seconds. *Would you?

I sure as hell would. *I'd use it to save YOU, never mind my own
children or loved ones. *Hell, I'd use it to save any human being, and
Wolfgang.

Dave

That's an absurd argument. You could use it to justify ANYTHING, not
just waterboarding.

By the way, General Petaeus, Colin Powell, and John McCain agree with
me that waterboarding is torture and violates American values.

I know who is for it and who is against it. *I am neither endorsing nor
condemning it. *The question is absurd, of course, but if you needed
information RIGHT NOW to save a loved one, would you use it? *You
threatened to kick Fortenberry's ass when the jerk called your wife and
child some nasty names. *That is a physical act leaving someone with
pain, and very possibly blood or even death. *You would physically harm
someone over an insult but would not waterboard them to save a loved
one's life? *That is not logical, Steve.

Quite true. The mayhem that ensued from that exchange will live long
in the memories of those who witnessed it.

g.
those of us who missed it, on the other hand.......