On Feb 23, 8:35*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-02-23 17:54:19 -0500, Larry L said:





On Feb 23, 2:34 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:

Did cost me $1200 a
month. Is that not reasonable?

I doubt seriously they could afford that.

As for blaming
*... nothing, this last year could probably have changed my friends
situation, not enough time

*.... but the ****ing Repugnants with their filibuster mania forced
what really could have been well discussed, compromised, health care
reform to fail ( admittedly, partly because a few imbecile Democrats
had to be "accommodated") *because not even a few reasonable Repugs
were to be found in the hall )

*... shouting "no" is NOT leading, it's lying about being a leader

Larry, with all due respect, blaming it on the Republicans is not fair.
*The Democrats have major majorities in both Houses and occupy the WH. *
They could have passed *anything* that looked good. *What they came up
with was a pitiful mess that the majority of Americans do not want. *
They had to bribe pols to get the bills through, and even now, the
Senate version will NOT pass in the house because of its contents. *The
Republicans did not pen these bills; Democrats did and both Pelosi and
Reid know the bill is dead and going nowhere. *As far as Republican
actions on these bills...... I remember seeing Obama on the news
meeting *exclusively* with the Dems of both Houses. *The Republicans
were not invited.

Even if the Republicans voted 100% for the bills in the House and the
Senate, it would take *years* to impliment. *Your friend is not dying
because of anything Congress or the Senate did or did not do. *Perhaps
he should have planned better, ensured that he and his would always be
covered by some kind of insurance. *I did, and I am called an imbecile,
idiot, moron, uneducated, etc by the insane and nasty denizens in this
rat hole. *I don't mean to sound cruel, but there is no free lunch; if
you don't watch out for yourself, no one else will. *Plan, save, and do
it yourself. *Don't rely on the politicians, because they sure as hell
don't love you and yours, or me and mine. *Do you honestly think Nancy
and Harry care about your friend? *They don't. *They are the ruling
class; you, your friend, me - we aren't part of their world. *If every
pol voted what his/her constituents wanted, their would be no health
care bill as it now exists, but there *could* have been a bill that
everyone agreed upon if only the process was different. *I have but a
few years to live and I know I will not see universal health care in my
life time. *My children doubt they will see it, or even see Social
Security because we are so very deep in debt. *They know that DC
doesn't care **** about them, Republicans or Democrats.

I pray your friend has an easy time of it in the short time he has left.

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Dave that is really naive. You need to read more before you join the
choirs. The "Obama" bill contains many of the provisions worked out in
Mass by Republican Romney. And the "Obama" bill also includes several
features from the old Senator Coburn Republican health-care reform
legislation. Period. Why do you think so many liberal Dems feel Obama
has compromised too much?

People who follow this stuff in DC know that what is going on is part
of a slash and burn strategy imposed by ultra conservatives of the
National Committee of the Republican Party. The objective is to deny
the Democrats credit for reforming health care. Its a risky strategy
because the "Tea Party" movement is such an unpredictable factor and
is resistant to the full court press for control of the Party radicals
and right wing ideologues like Grover Norquist and Dick Armey. The
"Teas" could turn on these 2nd wave "conservative" dinosaurs in a
minute. And finally the GOP risks exposure as a "puppet for hire" by
international capitalism, if the recession's effects persist too long,
and they overplay their hand trying to brand Obama as some kind of
Communist with all this outdated 1950s rhetoric.

There has been all kinds of quiet bi-partisan work constructing the
"Obama Bill" and that is well known in DC. But GOP party discipline
and threats of retaliation by the notorious "Club for Growth" has
pummeled even the Republican cooperators into silence. I keep
believing that patriotism will trump party politics and some of the
"silent Republican moderates" will break ranks with the dinosaurs and
start earning their pay.

Hard ball Politics, that's what is going on. And the American people
are the worse for it.

Dave