On Mar 22, 12:59*pm, Larry L wrote:

I tried every system that was suggested and maybe a couple others.

They all suck !

Well, they are more work, no doubt. Maybe you did other things wrong
(maybe I should say "non-optimal"), like the distance between the
nymphs, or too tight a casting style. What were your particular
experiences/problems with each rig that made you decide negatively on
it?

Regarding Dave's statement about finding what the fish want and using
it (as one fly), I have to (almost) entirely disagree. Yes there are
times that fish key in on one thing, but they spend ALOT of their
lives feeding opportunistically, and different fish (perhaps due to
what the water is pushing into their feeding lane at that particular
spot) may prefer one over the other. I've had plenty of days when no
one fly was the clear producer. Besides, how do you find what "they
want" without trying many flies? (Yes, prior knowledge, flipping
rocks, etc. all help, but you still have to experiment.)

Moreover, you have to pay attention to changes through the day. One
winter morning on the San Juan I had a double fly rig, a red midge
larva and a pheasant tail. From maybe 10 to 11 I took about four fish
all on the midge, then over the next hour about the same, all on the
PT. On winter days towards afternoon there will often be a baetis
hatch. I don't fish that river dozens of times a year, so I wouldn't
know the typical time that fish might start keying on them (or if they
will at all that day). A two fly rig solves it for me. And once I had
to re-rig anyways, I went to just the PT until the action slowed down,
and then went on to try something else.

Jon.