On Apr 6, 5:07*pm, jeff wrote:
On 4/6/2010 9:53 AM, wrote:





I don't know exactly why - probably the "Frank" character telling a young "Bar"
about "the facts of colored life" combined with the WP's daily email
"briefings," but these recent three pieces in the WP brought the recent
"discussion" involving Obama's bio to mind

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...10/04/02/AR201...

and/versus:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...10/04/05/AR201...

(Note - the latter was in the WPs daily "Opinion" email labeled/linked as
follows (the complete link tag):

"Eugene Robinson
The Forgotten District
Where's the help for the black underclass?"

combined with this article linked-to in the news brief email:

Obama to discuss needs of black community
President Obama will sit down Tuesday with about 20 black religious leaders,
including representatives of the major African American denominations, in the
second White House meeting in three months to discuss the needs of the black
community.

(the full article is
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...10/04/05/AR201...)

IAC, since, apparently, the only two people in the world who consider Obama to
be bi-racial are Obama and me, why isn't the election of a
"black"/"African-American person as the President of the United States at least
some indication that "blacks" have come a long way, baby...brother....? *And
maybe it should indicate that views attributed to "Frank" aren't anymore
appropriate than David Duke's (or whatever loon(s) are leading the sheetcutters
these days), nor are those of opportunists like Jackson and Sharpton or "guilty
white liberal" paternalist "PC"ers in a modern, progressing world...

And an aside to jeff - thus far, IMO, Obama's "job" with regard to racial
"traps" has been pretty good. *He appears to have avoided most of race nonsense
from all sides (the Gates ****up being an exception, but at the end of the day,
not that big a deal), but I do disagree with his refusal thus far to fully (and
accurately) address his heritage as the product of a white "American" mother and
a "black" "African" father. *I don't particularly fault him for it - a pol has
to, well, pander to their base(s) - but, again IMO, he could do a world of good
for the whole racial issue, at least insofar as "regular people" (non-public
figures without a "public" agenda) are concerned - if he were to address it
forthrightly and head-on. *And I'm not talking about might appear to be
"popular" with a particular base, I'm talking about what's right.

R

why is that a "what's right" issue? because it will satisfy you? it's a
looney issue to me...a baiting issue that serves no national or
political purpose. what makes it important to you? why and how will it
help "regular people"?

imo, he wrote a book addressing his heritage adequately. what is lacking
in the book that you need said?

i'm more interested in his efforts and statements as president than i am
some additional explanation of his heritage - an explanation that, imo,
will satisfy none of the close-minded obama haters and will add nothing
new.

the current right wing of our political discourse is and will remain a
mystery to me...it's arrogant, calculating, hate and propaganda for the
most part. it gurgles in some, boils in others...most think they are
entitled to express their vitriole against their countrymen and their
president.

i yearn for "regular people". i think we all have our own idea of what
that means.

if you've seen any of the photos or videos of the faces and reactions,
or read the statements, etc. of black americans (african-americans, if
you prefer) upon first learning of Obama's election as prez...i don't
see how you or anyone can deny the impact of his election on a
significant population of this country - a population that claims him as
uniquely one of them, and an impact that included a sense of pride and
citizenship recaptured or discovered. that was an important moment in my
life, revealing a level of emotion i had rarely noticed in a segment of
our society that suffers disproportionately (for whatever reason you or
others might believe) in education, income, employment, elected office,
incarceration, crime, housing, etc.

yeah, i reckon i missed your point...

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One person who has put in a lot of effort and study of the bizarre
takeover of the Republican Party by folks who share some of RDs
Feudalistic ideology, is Max Blumenthal, author of Republican
Gomorrah. The Feudalists and the Neocons think they can control the
Dominionist/Cultists who are the more numerous "base" of the takeover.
Blumenthal is a journalist but he does reference the relevant research
on authoritarian personality disorders.

I am not quick to write off the current mess that is the GOP to a
simple continuation of the Goldwater/Reagan vector of conservatism.
Something far different has metastasized, in particular concerning the
break the rightwing has made with the concepts of democratic
elections, and strangely enough, rejection of a kind and gentle
translation of the role and teachings of Jesus Christ. Mel Gibson's
suffering, bloody, homoerotic images, of Christ, and his lightly
veiled reprise as "Wallace" in Braveheart, and all that "end times"
bull****, is much more the image that is at the core of the Party now.
This stuff is the ooze from which Palin and Huckabee emerge. Anyway,
check out what Blumenthal has to say.

Dave