Larry wrote:snipI've tried the DanVise and don't like it at all... no place to
rest your
"off" hand, too crowded around the jaws, etc. Owned and sold a NorVise,
no use for one of those again and don't like the Griffin rotaries at
all

I have a Dyna-King Aristocrat that I bought used from a friend when he decided
to by a Barracuda. In time he found the Barracuda was not as good for tying
flies on inverted hooks, so he sold it and bought another Aristocrat. The jaws
are the same for all of these vises and midge jaws are available for all of
them. the Aristocrat sells for somewhere about $210. I would suggest you give a
Dyna-King a try before you spend your hard-earned money on a vise made by any
other company. I seldom tie smaller than a size 16 so I can't say how any vise
is for tying smaller flies. I do prefer the way the Dyna-Kings hold a hook
compared to a Renzetti. They are great for spinning deer hair as well.

Regards,

Big Dale