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Old April 12th, 2004, 01:00 PM
Mike Connor
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"Bill Curry" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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HI,

Mike - RW has put out the same opinion as mine, and you insist that a
beginner will not find the WF useful. You mentioned as well the casting
requirement in Germany, I believe it was.
So, a question - what standard did these people have to cast to? In my
experience, and this is where we seem to diverge in our outlook, I can get
most (I'd say 90- 95%) of my clients to cast to 30 to 40 feet in one
day-long, private, session and maybe 75% of a group class (4-10 people per
instructor) will do the same. It is therefore very reasonable for me to
assume that a WF does have advantages, because they will then be able

fairly
quickly to cast the 40 -50 feet where the WF line IS an advantage.
I would be interested in hearing the standard as I also teach Guides to
cast, and we have a standard they have to pass - almost all elect to use a
WF line to hit the 45 feet, and some of these people are not very
experienced fly fishers, as Guides in Nova Scotia can and do specialize in
spinning or other gear for bass and the like.

Bill
http://www.tightlines.ca



They have to make five casts of 15 metres or more, for which no points are
given, it just has to be accomplished, within 6 minutes, and they have to
make ten accuracy casts to a target from 5, 8, 10, 12 and 15 meters. The
minimum score to pass the test is 60 points. Maximum possible score is 100.
The center of the target is 0,75 m in diameter, and counts ten points, the
next ring is larger, 1,35/1,95/2,55/3,15 m and counts less etc etc. The
target is a so called "Arenberg Scheibe". Any rod and line may be used. A
leader of nine feet is used, and a size ten fly with the hook bend clipped
off.

All my pupils use a nine foot #5 wt rod with #5 DT floater

The test is carried out on grass. I metre = 3.28 feet

Before people may take the fly-fishing test, they must complete the baitcast
ing/ spincasting test.

Rod no longer than 1,5 m. Standard open faced spinning reel.
Weight : Plastic bomb 7,5 g

Cast technique : Pendulum cast / Sidecast right / Overhead cast /
Sidecast left / freestyle
Time limit : 5:00 Minutes
Number of casts : 1 x 5 x 2
Points : 10, 8, 6, 4, 2 / Hits
Possible points : 100

Minimum pass score 60 points

Start= 5.
Type : Startboard
Dimensions : L 1,00 / H 0,10 m

Target :1
Type five ring Arenberg target

Measurements : Dm. 0,75/1,35/1,95/2,55/3,15 m

Distance :Start - Target : 10, 12, 18, 14, 16 m


There is not much point in my repeating what I have already written several
times. If you believe the WF has advantages, then you believe it, and there
is nothing at all to be done about it.

I donīt think the WF is of advantage to a beginner, and I have explained why
I think so.

Here is why I think the DT is better.

1. It can be cast up to sixty feet at least with no problems. It must not be
shot. Indeed, given the necessary skill, one may cast the whole line.
2. It can be mended at any distance.
3. It is not necessary to retrieve before recasting.
4. It can be reversed when worn, or even cut in half to start with. And is
therefore cheaper.
5. It does not wear out so quickly.
7. It handles somewhat better than running line, and is less prone to
tangle.
6. It is available everywhere as a "standard" line.
7. It can be roll cast quite easily.

Here is why I think the WF is not better.

1. Once the head is outside the rings, the line must be shot
2. Once the head is outside the rings, the line can not be mended
3. It is necessary to retrieve the head before recasting.
4. Once the head is outside the rings it can not be roll cast.
5. It wears out much more quickly.
6. The handling is not as good as a DT, the running line is thinner, and
more prone to tangle.
7. For maximum efficiency, a haul must be used. This is very difficult for
beginners.
8. In order to load the rod better at close range, heavier WF lines are
used. This is bad for presentation.

So, I think that was about it.

TL
MC