Warren wrote:


On a serious note, I think the reason why you dismiss and make fun
of such examples is that you are afraid to examine the logic and
rationale behind them. Doing so may shatter your beliefs in things
that you have long accepted as being right, proper or even factual.
I think that scares you and is why that it is such a problem for you
do anything but criticize or make fun of them. I am not making the
comparison that golden retrievers are as dangerous as firearms, I am
comparing perceptions of usefulness. I am saying that just because
you or Willi view concealed weapons as being useless, that doesn't
make them so for everybody else. I am saying that it is just as
wrong as the notion that you should be able to tell others what to
drive, eat, etc.


I never said that concealed weapons are useless or that they shouldn't
be allowed (but I do feel that the requirements to obtain a permit
should be VERY rigorous). What I said was:

"I share some of Greg's concerns about carrying handguns. Some of that
has to do with my unfamiliarity with them and some of it has to do with
the irresponsible way I've seen handguns handled - like bringing a
handgun out from a tent to "show" it to a group of guys around a
campfire after that person had been drinking a considerable amount of
liquor."


The only reason I replied at all to this thread is that you're
"championing" the right for the carrying of arms when your behavior with
them just increases my unease when I'm around someone with a firearm
that I don't know well, or even with a couple of people I do.


Willi