On Sun, 23 May 2004 14:47:12 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote:



Steve Nyhan wrote:

... I believe a fly rodder can out fish a
bait caster in shallow water anytime.

deja vu!! (eh, petah?)

6-8 weight rod, bass leaders, big popping bugs in various colors... hula
poppers, dixie devils, worm/leech ties, etc. fish edges and holes in
lilly pads, fish the drop offs. and...a good baitcaster or spin
fisherman will kick your butt everytime, shallow or deep water...
that's my opinion.

jeff

ya, ya, ya -- that's why I said the fly rodder has to think out of
the box. If you're gonna fish like a baitcaster, take a baitcaster.
PJ would cast into the salad and rip the worm across the top. A short
(9 footer) fly rod wouldn't be able to cast as far nor keep the fly
line out of the salad. I spent a lot of time casting to fish that
weren't home, fishing the cold, empty shallows. The wind played merry
hell with the lighter line but it was of no concern to PJ's
baitcaster.

I didn't play to the strengths of the fly rod that day. Give the
weather we had, the fish weren't going to be in the shallows until the
temperature rose. They weren't going to be moving too fast either.
They were either in deeper water or under the salad that probably
acted like an insulating blanket for that water. I bet the temps
under the salad were one or two degrees warmer than the open shallows.

I should've been fishing the canals like a UK stillwater angler,
dropping damselflies and dragonflies into the canels and retrieving
them very slowly along the bottom. Would've driven PJ nuts as I took
the better part of five minutes to retrieve a single cast, but that in
of itself would've made the day interesting. ) If I ever went
back, I'd take a two-hander, blast casts 90' to 100' down the length
of the canals using a shooting head, then slowly retrieve a team of
flies along its length. Don't think I wouldn't pick up a few?

The interesting thinks about models, is that far more people follow
existing ones rather than use their brains and a bit of moral courage
to try and forge new ones. Fly fishing for largemouth exactly like a
gear chucker is a losing propostion in my books. IIRC, we had a
similar discussion before I left for NC.

Peter

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