I'm a visual kinda guy, thats why I asked about a web page. by the way,

you know, Frank, I read my own post a couple hours after sending it and
my
reaction was ...wtf is that guy saying G

Knot you!

... some things are real hard to
put in words ... knots being an example

I think if I tried some of these things without pictures, I'd end up in a
flourocarbon birdsnest suit that Houdini couldn't get out of.

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Frank Reid
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