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: There is a massive range of lure weights, most pike type lures I have
: seen range from 1 to 6 Ozs, my question is "can one rod realistically
: be used to cover this whole range".

Then you havent been looking hard enough, I have dozens of pike lures and
the heaviest is less than an ounce.

Which isn't a lot of use for spinning beneath heavy water. 6oz is a bit OT
for out and out lures but a deadbait on a sink and draw mount might weigh
nearer a pound.

: I have seen rods advertised that claim to cover 1 to 6 Oz, does
: anybody have any experience of these. I cannot see that a rod with
: the backbone to haul a 140 grams lure isn't too stiff to be of any
: use when using a 28 grams lure. This is based on my fly fishing
: experience where you cannot correctly cast a five weight line with a
: ten weight rod and vice versa.

And you can cast fluffy lures to pike on a fly rod too.

Don't imagine you are in the distance casting business. Even a carp rod
will lob a half-pound deadbait 20 or so yards. You rarely need to cast
farther and if you do you'll have trouble setting the hooks.

Pike fishing is nothing at all like fly fishing.
You dont need to be able to cast a six ounce weight ! - I can easily cast
a
one ounce spinner a hundred yards using a carp rod, which is plenty far
enough IMV.

Far too much. Accurate casting at 20 yards is more sense than 100 yard
blasts.

: My idea is to get say a 20 to 60 grams long rod (9 foot) and a 60 to
: 110 grams short rod (6 to 7 foot).
: Most fishing would be river / reservoir from bank or boat.

What are the banks like? These might be OK from a boat or a bare bank but
for any natural bank with overhanging cover you'll need a bit more length.
A cheap, second hand last-year's deeesigner-special cap rod of about 11 - 12
feet is a good start. You might want to shorten the butt with a hacksaw,
take care to cover the raw end somehow..

close to the margins at the venues you will be fishing. A short rod is far
easier than a longer rod for holding all day (ie a 6' rod). Ideally one
that will handle lures up to 1 oz. This can then be combined with a
smallish fixed spool reel and 15lb mono, or 25lb braid (reccomended). I
would strongly advise against getting a carp rod as you will end up with
tired shoulders and a bad back if you use that for a day!

Never noticed it. On a lot of the banks I fish you will be continually
tangled and frustrated with a short rod. With a long rod you can often lob
a plug into a tight corner where a short one would need a full cast and be
less accurate.

Good luck - It is good fun catching fish on lures!

Now this I can agree with :-)

Cheerio,

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