:Sounds like you are using a relatively thick, springy line. Try something
:thinner. I tend to tie spades the other way up btw - whipping away from
the
:spade but the knot shown should be secure as long as you control it well
:when tightening it.


I was using 5lb Maxima chameleon Mono (which is 0.20mm dia), was only for
practice while I was learning the knot.
I'm now getting on fairly well with 3lb of same. which is 0.15mm dia.

I'm also using a little knot tying tool I picked up today called a
haakaanbinder made by a company called Albatros
link: http://www.visserslatijn.nl/techniek...matchman.shtml
This makes it much easier and quicker to get the knot done.


The whole whipping away from the spade is confusing me..
Does it provide a more secure knot?
And is it simply a matter of starting the knot as normal, but start the
whipping at the spade and work down the shank from there, resulting in the
line doubled under the whipping.. If you get me?

Thanks for all the feedback so far folks.
/T Ninja (AKA Daniel)