"Bill Kiene" wrote in message
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I don't like them because I don't like to have those loops in my line for
many situations like stripping streamers or wet flies. I don't think
having
the set of loops 'clanking' through the guides is good when you are trying
to perceive a subtle take. For stripping wet flies in lakes for trout or
stripping on the flats I prefer full fly lines.

Hi Bill. What do you mean by "I don't think having the set of loops
'clanking' through the guides is good when you are trying to perceive a
subtle take"?

How many loops have you got on your line? I've only got one loop connection
between my shootingline and the shooting head. I use a 9' foot S3S for all
my coastal fishing, and the only time where you'll notice the loop
connection, is when you pull the loop connection through the guides - which
will be 9 feet in total(aprox 4-10 seconds in total). Maybe you have some
"lousy" loops, I dont know, but my loops are so small that you'll rarely
notice them in practical fishing. I make my loops with the core of the
shootinghead and shootingline, and then pull the core into it self, tighten
up VERY hard and finish it with Loon softglue to make a nice "overlapping".


A head system with good braided mono or new welded loops and a good
running
line fits in some situations but is not the answer for everything. In fact
many fly fishers will never need them for their particular fly fishing
profile.

Again. Which loops do you use?!?!? I use full DT and WF lines for dryfly and
nymph fishing, but all coastal/lake fishing, I only use shooting heads -
with huge success i might add.


I would not recommend shooting head over 30 feet for anyone wading with a
normal single handed rod. Especially with large bulking streamers.

Why not? This is exactly what i use, and instead of doing 5-8 false casts
everytime, i now only have to do 2-4 to cast 30-40 yards. Saves me a lot of
energy, and as you know, "when the fly is in the air, you aint' gonna catch
fish" )


--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


Tight lines )
Thomas - DK