In article , Peter Charles
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:51:28 -0400, Allen Epps
wrote:

In article , Tom
Littleton wrote:

Allen,
I would have expected better than a Fox News blurb....the truth is, the
Bush
admin has systematically eliminated scientists, with no regard to anything
other than the likelyhood of negative, scientifically based conclusions,
from
a
host of advisory committees. NO administration has ever done so before,
NONE!!
Tom
Tom,


Allen

As soon as I read this:

"It was quite an ironic charge coming from a self-described activist
group whose left-wing, eco-extremist, anti-biotechnology,
anti-chemical, anti-nuclear, anti-defense and anti-business screeds
embody the very antithesis of the scientific ideal of objectivity."

then I knew the entire article was garbage. They made no effort to
refute anything the UCS said, they merely pandered to their fears and
ignorance of their readership via a heavy dose of gutter journalism.

It's the most distressing aspect of this particular brand of
right-wing ideology (I won't call them conservative because they're
not), in that their only response to any challenge is insult,
invective, fear-mongering, pandering, and ignorance. Their ideology
is so morally bankrupt and devoid of anything more than a hackneyed
version of economic and social Darwinism, that it offers society
virtually nothing beyond the pursuit of wealth and power by the elite
at the expense of everyone else. The more I head and read of this
particular brand of right wing extremism, the so-called "neo-cons",
the more I hear the echos of the Third Reich.

Am I guilty of doing the same thing? Just read the article and
similar ones by these ideologues and show me where the article isn't
at least in part about insult, invective, fear-mongering, pandering,
and ignorance. Can the left idulge in some of this? Of course it
can, but the ideology can stand on its own without it, and so can
traditional Republican (conservative) values, but this current version
can't. Without IIFP&I, it has nothing left to offer.

Hilter gained power democratically by appealing to fear and ignorance.
The "Jew" became his social bogeyman that motivated the ignorant and
selfish to vote him in. To see what I mean, take a lot of the crap
spewed about Liberals, remove "Liberal" and insert the word "Jew".

Traditional Conservatism is a proud ideology with an equally proud
history but this current crew are far more fascist than conservative.
Neo-cons are simply fascists with better PR and better suits. They
give thinking conservatives everywhere a bad name. And BTW, I'm not
name calling when I label them as fascists, I'm using the word in it's
correct political context, not as a slur. Fascism is a legitimate
political philosophy, no matter how distasteful it might be. I won't
let "fascist" the slur prevent me from using the word appropriately.
Fascism can be defined two ways: as a right-wing, authoritarian, and
nationalistic philisophy, and as an ideology that closely aligns the
interests of government with that of major corporations, to the
benefit of those corporations and the elites that control them. Sound
familiar?

I've mentioned this a few times, but what the political discourse of
the Western World needs to do is rehabilitate the word "Fascism" so it
can be used appropriately, plus consider the possibility of creating a
new label, "Democratic Fascism", a philosophy that generally plays by
the democratic rule of law but is otherwise dedicated to the
principles of Fascism. I'm sure Republicans of an earlier age are
turning over in their graves given the anitcs of the current crew that
bears their proud name.


Peter

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Peter,
I guess I get an "F" on irony. That was my whole point of posting it
was that I found the interview, the interviewee, and his website full
of right wing nonsense. Those that have actually sat down and had a
beer with me know I'm (politically) a pretty darn moderate guy.

Missed you at Penns and the Rapid Peter.

Allen
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