snake sez:
i'll be back out there because it is a nice, un-crowded place that my son
and i (since he spin casts) can fish together.

Then you may want to team-fish with him. Both of you use damsel fly and/or
dragon fly nympths. You with a sink tip and he with a bubble 1/2 to 2/3
full of water to make it sink. He can cast a country mile with his bubble
and get way out into deep water and you can shore fish. Since both of you
use the same fly your team-fishing would be testing the difference between
fishing close to shore vs. fishing out in deeper water. Which technique
works best? Try it and let us know!
Good luck!
John