On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:45:16 GMT, "Brutus Gold"
wrote:

They are going to overrule the Lords on Fox Hunting and use a law that is
only supposed to be used in dire emergencies


oops top posted! to late to delete!
"Norman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:50:09 +0000 (UTC), "Luis Troyano"
wrote:

Hi
the councils themselves have no power to do that due to a very old law in
The Magna Carta which makes sea fishing in the UK free to all.

What you have probably heard is that the Government are considering
overruling the law and introducing a licence that would cost approx £22
What the House of Commons have voted by a clear majority vote is to
ban fox hunting with dogs. If the House of Lords vote against the
House of Commons ruling it would effectively undermine the decision
made by Parliament.
The Parliament Act you refer to is not an emergency law. Until the
House of Lords was reformed recently it always had a conservative
majority as the "Lords", who were not elected by the people, mostly
supported the Conservative principles.

There are two ways for a law to be passed by Parliament. The usual way
is for the Houses of Commons and Lords to agree the same text.
However, it now seems unlikely that members of the House of Lords will
change their preconceived views..

The other way comes into play when the House of Lords refuses to agree
with the democratically elected House of Commons. This procedure is
known as the Parliament Act. It is fairly rare, but has happened twice
since the 1997 General Election,

The Parliament Act was passed by Parliament in 1911 and amended in
1949.
It says (section 2.1) that

"if any Public Bill ... is passed by the House of Commons [in two
successive sessions] (whether of the same Parliament or not), and,
having been sent up to the House of Lords at least one month before
the end of the session, is rejected by the House of Lords in each of
those sessions, that Bill shall, on its rejection by the House of
Lords, unless the House of Commons vote to the contrary, be presented
to Her Majesty and become an Act of Parliament on the Royal Assent
being signified thereto, notwithstanding that the House of Lords have
not consented to the Bill..."

To introduce a licence or sea fishing tax the government/local council
etc would have to go through the procedure of making legislation to
make it legal. All the two million + anglers would have to do is to
vote for the party that opposed this.
Sea fishing has a lot more support from ordinary people which
contrasts that of fox hunting which is primarily an activity rich
people indulge in.

Norman