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Old September 22nd, 2007, 12:21 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:21:24 GMT, LabRat
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voiced his/her/it's humble opinion in
rec.outdoors.fishing.fly on Fri 21 Sep 2007 09:58:11a:

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:16:08 -0700, Mike

wrote:


.A gentleman
that I do work for was cleaning out his attic and came acrost a
Monteague(sp) Bamboo rod two tips hardly used he said his uncle gave
it to him as a boy but he had forgotten about it he remembers using it
a couple time but it was his uncles before that.........The rod is
beautiful the cork has a little use stain on it has been in a rod tube
for the last 30 or so years.......... he thinks his uncle bought the
rod in the 40's any idea the worth of this rod.......All info kept
confidential and you will not be held to the price you quote


Montague made a wide range of rods that range from economy rods to some
fairly decent rods.


TC,
R


You may be the guy to ask. I have an old cane rod with a decal on it
that says Gold Fish.


And then again, maybe not...I've never heard of a brand of rod "Gold
Fish."

I'm pretty sure it's a cheap chinese rod as the
finish has dried and cracked tho the cane looks to be in good shape and
the ferrules and reel seat are chrome tho a magnet wont attach so they
atre likely chrome plated brass. None of the wrapping on the guides has
laquer on them as well.


It sounds like the post-WWII Japanese rods that have been discussed on
ROFF a few times, including a couple of times in the last month or so.
If it fishes OK for you, that's probably the highest and best use and
source of value. These rods, even unfished in the box/case, aren't
worth much at all unless you find some decorator type who'll pay a
unreasonable amount for "a bamboo rod" without regard to what it is.

Unlike the other cane I have that was purported to be English make and
has what look like silver ferrules. There is no name at all on that one
and it throws a 5-6 wt. line quite nicely. The finish is in perfect
condition and all thread work is coated as well, see through gold, with
two bands between each guide. It has a much nicer grip tho it looks like
the reel seat was replaced with an fairly cheap one. (easy enough to
replace)


There's no way to say what it might be based solely on the above - there
are characteristics that rods known makers possess that could lead to
ID'ing it, but "unmarked" makes it all that much more difficult. A
well-made, well-furnished, but unknown maker 'boo, in good original
condition, 3/1 (or a 3/2 with a punk 2nd tip) in the 8ish foot range
that handles a 5-6 wt. well has some monetary value when offered by a
reputable dealer in the US - generally more than $200USD and less than
$500USD unless something really nice or special. A "moderate" quality
production rod from a known American maker (for example, Montague,
Heddon, South Bend, etc.) refinished (not "restored") nicely by a
competent refinisher can be had readily for well under $500.00 -
generally in the coupla-three hundred dollar range.

As to the English rods, there are quite a few that came out of smaller
shops, particularly in the Redditch area, that are sorta like the "guild
guns" of Germany, Belgium, etc. - generally good or better quality but
without the value (or cost, if you're buying) of the "name"
counterparts. Servicepeople and tourists brought plenty of these back
to the US and so it isn't unusual to find these in the US. Prices on
these tend to be more hard to pin down because often novice buyers and,
um, "lesser" dealers skew the data, but IMO, these are worth something
in bottom range of "fishable" 'boo - $200-300.00.

FWIW, American rods are, generally, the most monetarily valuable and
sought after, with the English rods, again generally, second. If you
can provide more details, I'm sure you'll get more info...or well,
opinions, anyway.

TC,
R

TIA

Later......

LabRat...... |:^{)