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On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:20:15 GMT, Bob Ward wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:47:07 -0600, Lawrence Glickman
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:18:55 -0500, Sheldon Harper
wrote:

Lawrence Glickman wrote in :

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:05:24 -0500, Neon John wrote:

All the below is TRASH Neon John. Somewhat like your
self-congratulatory self...rubbish.

Do you know about fertilizer runoff? Do you KNOW that commercial
fisheries are disallowed from harvesting ANYTHING from Lake Michigan
because it is so contaminated with carcinogens? Look it up, Banjo
Boy, before you open your fat mouth again on this newsgroup.

FACT:
fish in Lake Michigan are not fit for Human Consumption because of
high concentrations of toxins from the water.

FACT:
Commercial fisheries are prohibited from harvesting marine life from
Lake Michigan because of the above.


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I think you better alert the commercial fishing boats about it!


They are in clear violation of the Law. I think you had better alert
them. I'm about 20 or 30 minutes south of the most southern part of
the Lake, and live in one of the most contaminated areas.


Perhaps you should provide a link tio this law you are referring to,
and alert the Department of Natural Resources that their authority has
been countermanded by some asshole on usenet.


Which asshole would that be, mop boy, YOURSELF? You see, there are so
many to choose from, one hardly knows where to begin.

Lg




http://www.ilga.gov/commission/jcar/...00000300R.html


TITLE 17: CONSERVATION
CHAPTER I: DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES
PART 850 COMMERCIAL FISHING IN LAKE MICHIGAN
SECTION 850.30 RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL FISHING AREAS


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Section 850.30 Restricted Commercial Fishing Areas



a) During the month of August, commercial gill net fishing may
be undertaken anywhere in the Illinois portion of Lake Michigan
outside of the 1,000 yard distance from any pier, breakwater, or
similar structure, or the low water mark on the shore. From the
months of September through June, inclusive, commercial fishermen must
fish in water depths of at least 5 fathoms (30 feet) or deeper to
minimize incidental catch of salmon and trout.



b) The following described area in Lake Michigan is
established as fish refuge and it shall be unlawful for any person to
place any commercial fishing device in it: all waters on or adjacent
to any area commonly referred to as Julian's Reef, located in a
general area bounded by 42 16'00" north latitude on the north, 87
29'00" west longitude on the east, 42 11'00" north latitude on the
south and 87 35'00" west longitude on the west, on U.S. lake survey
navigational chart #75, edition of April 1972 (National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration).



c) During the months of August and September, all gill nets
set in the Illinois portion of Lake Michigan in waters up to 20
fathoms (120 feet) in depth shall not be set prior to sunrise and must
be removed from the water prior to sunset on the same day.



d) During the month of July, all gill nets must be placed in
waters greater than 20 fathoms (120 feet) in depth to minimize the
incidental catch of yellow perch.



(Source: Amended at 28 Ill. Reg. 4697, effective March 1, 2004)



This contamination is mostly from INDUSTRIAL EFFLUENT that has been
pumped into the Lake over the course of the last century by Big
Business, as in USS Steel.


snip rant


pity...I thought it was worthy of a repost

I decided to take a look for myself, and this is some of what I found.

"Bottom trawl nets are presently used on Lakes Michigan and
Superior by fewer than 10 fishing vessels operating out of
a few ports along mid-Green Bay, at Two Rivers on Lake Michigan
and at Duluth on Lake Superior. Trawlers usually operate in the
same area over a long period of time, so they are very predictable
and easy to avoid."

http://www.seagrant.wisc.edu/greatlakesfish/nets.html

"Last winter the Department worked with commercial fishers to study
incidental catch rates of lake trout in gill nets set for chubs
during winter. Data were collected by Department employees riding
commercial boats, with the fishers reimbursing the Department for
the time and expenses of those biologists."

http://dnr.wi.gov/org/water/fhp/fish/lakemich/Lake%20Michigan%20Fisheries%20News%20Sept%201997.h tm


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"PCBs are present in some types of Lake Michigan fish at concentrations
exceeding US FDA tolerances. Such elevated PCB levels have resulted in
closure of some commercial fisheries and issuance of fish consumption
advisories for sports fishing. PCBs contribute to reproductive problems
and deformities in fish and wildlife (Mac 1988, Gilbertson, 1988)."

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It is worse that the government is willing to admit to the public.
Much worse.

BTW, the Vermillion River, which has nothing to do with Lake Michigan,
is contaminated to dangerous levels with phosphates from farm
fertilizer runoff. To the point it is also unfit for human
consumption. Yet Ottawa Illinois and Streator Illinois get all their
drinking water from this one contaminated source.

Would you use a *filter* if you lived there? Or would you just dip
and drink?

http://www.epa.gov/glnpo/lmmb/substs.html

And more on sport fishing on Lake Michigan:

http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/dec04/283365.asp