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Old June 15th, 2011, 05:42 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Bob[_2_]
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Default Knot question....

On Jun 14, 7:05*pm, riverman wrote:
On Jun 14, 1:13*pm, riverman wrote:

Apologies for posting this on this particular day, but this is time-
ended...


I'm tuning up my 8-wt for a trip, and tying on new 15-lb leader. But
as carefully as I am with tying my nail knot, the sheath of the fly
line keeps tearing loose and stripping the leader off. This knot has
to be solid enough to hold a very large fish: is there an good
alternate knot for the line-leader connection, or some hints from
folks to make the loops in the leader not cut the sheathing on the
line? You salmon fishermen probably know some tricks....?


Thanks


--riverman


Thanks, all. I'm going to try Bob's advice about really torquing down
on the leader before I trim the ends. RW: I'm a big fan of Albright
knots, but not with fat leader. The stiffness of the leader keeps the
loops from sliding down against the bend in the fly line and locking
off the knot at the very end. And a closely trimmed short end only has
to slip back out that bend and the whole thing comes undone. But if
all else fails, I'll do an Albright with a Superglue finish :-)

--riverman


Myron, your comment about super glue reminded me of something I did on
my Steelhead leaders. Buy a tube of Loon Knot Sense and coat the
finished nail knot with it. I don't know if it helps, but I have
landed Steelhead up to 22# in heavy current without ever having a nail
knot fail. BTW you should wet the line & leader before torquing down.
Also I didn't explain the threading method very well - After threading
the butt of the leader ~ 3/8" up the center of the line, bring the
butt end out the side of the line to tie a nail knot - upper end of
knot even with where the leader exits the side of the line. Carefully
trim any of the line from around the leader that extends past the
lower end of the nail knot when done.

Bob Weinberger