On Aug 10, 7:34*pm, ANTIQUE AUDIO wrote:
heads up people- baitcaster reels are older than the Ford Model T, and
just as antiquated

basically the only reason people used them, was back in 1900, there
was nothing else- only baitcasters and fly reels- spinning and
spincasting reels were not invented yet

anyone that says they can "cast further with a baitcaster" is FOS-
think about it, use common sense

on a spinning reel, the only thing that has to leave the reel, is the
line itself

on a baitcaster, the spool has to turn

there is more friction turning the spool, than the line just leaving
the spinning reel

so there you have it

why do people use them ? *for the same reason they like 1970
Chevelles, tube stereos, and battleships- they are a cool relic of the
past

truth be told, there's not a freshwater fish alive, you can't land
with a spinning or spincasting reel

the only "practical" sane use for a baitcaster, is deep see fishing or
trolling, for very, very big fish- like swordfish- and trolling- where
you toss your bait over the side, let line out, and troll the lure

sure, there are people that can cast 100-150 ft. with a baitcaster

but even a novice can cast 250 feet with a spinning reel-

there's simply no comparison- but for some reason, these "bass pros"
won't admit to that-

reason- they are getting cash endorsements from reel companies- and
the reel companies make a ton of money from baitcasting reels people
use a few times, have problems with, then sit and collect dust

just look at how many old baitcasting reels there are on Ebay. *Just
try casting with one. The old baitcasters had no clutch, drag, or
casting resistance settings- all they had was a clicker button-

the clicker served as a half-assed "drag" to wear down a fish, and an
"alarm" to tell the fisherman, when a fish has hit his lure while
trolling

NOT for casting, or for clutching

the recent additions of the clutch, drag, release button, etc.
settings, was merely an attempt at making a reel designed for cranking
a big fish in, to also cast

having said this, I have spent last 2 days practicing casting an old
1960's vintage baitcaster reel, the reel handle actually spins when
casted, there is no release button on it- maximum casting range so far
is 60 feet- that's about it

first baitcasters were made in the 1600's- we are talking a 400 year
old design

by comparison, the first spinning reels were invented in the 1870's-
the primary purpose of a spinning reel ? eliminate backlash, and to
cast lighter weight lures

it's common knowledge that baitcasters don't work well with light
lures

see it here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing...t_casting_reel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing..._spool.29_reel

"Early reels were often operated by inverting the reel and using back
winding to retrieve line. For this reason, the reel crank handle was
positioned on the right side of the reel.[2] As a result, the right-
hand crank position for bait casting reels has become customary over
the years"

so the reason the crank handle is on the wrong side, is back 200 years
ago, they turned the reel over to crank it in with left hand- now, is
that a good reason to have the crank on right side today ? NO, it
isn't

you have to use common sense with this stuff- a lot of things we are
sold and told today, are done for political and economic (i.e. money)
reasons

Bait casting reel
Bait casting reels are reels in which line is stored on a bearing
supported revolving spool. The bait casting reel is mounted above the
rod, hence its other name, the overhead reel. The bait casting reel
dates from at least the mid-1600s, but came into wide use by amateur
anglers during the 1870s. Early bait casting reels were often
constructed with brass or iron gears, with casings and spools made of
brass, German silver, or hard rubber. Early reels were often operated
by inverting the reel and using back winding to retrieve line. For
this reason, the reel crank handle was positioned on the right side of
the reel.[2] As a result, the right-hand crank position for bait
casting reels has become customary over the years, though models with
left-hand retrieve are now gaining in popularity. Many of today's bait
casting reels are constructed using aluminum, stainless steel, and/or
synthetic composite materials. They typically include a level-wind
mechanism to prevent the line from being trapped under itself on the
spool during rewind and interfering with subsequent casts. Many are
also fitted with anti-reverse handles and drags designed to slow runs
by large and powerful game fish. Because the momentum of the forward
cast must rotate the spool as well as propel the fishing lure, bait
casting designs normally require heavier lures for proper operation
than with other types of reels. The gear ratio in bait casting reels
was initially about 3/1, later standardized at 4/1 in most reels, but
recent developments have seen many bait casting reels with gear ratios
as high as 5.5/1 or even higher. Higher gear ratios allow much faster
retrieval of line, but sacrifice a small amount of power in exchange.

Spool tension on most modern bait casting reels can be adjusted with
adjustable spool tension, a centrifugal brake, or a magnetic "cast
control." This reduces spool overrun during a cast and the resultant
line snare, known as backlash. Each time a lure of a different weight
is attached, the cast control must be adjusted. The bait casting reel
design will operate well with a wide variety of fishing lines, ranging
from braided multifilament and heat-fused "superlines" to copolymer,
fluorocarbon, and nylon monofilaments (see Fishing line). Most bait
casting reels can also easily be palmed or thumbed to increase the
drag, set the hook, or to accurately halt the lure at a given point in
the cast.

A variation of the bait casting reel is the big game reel. These are
very large and robust fishing reels, designed and built for heavy
sal****er species such as tuna, marlin, sailfish and sharks. Big game
reels are not designed for casting, but used for trolling or fishing
set baits and lures on the open ocean.

Bait casting reels are sometimes referred to as conventional reels in
the U.S. They are known as multiplier reels in Europe, on account of
their geared line retrieve (one turn of the handle resulting in
multiple turns of the spool).

Bait Casting Reel Operation
A bait casting reel and rod is cast by moving the rod backward, then
snapping it forward. During the forward cast, the weight of the lure
pulls the line off the reel. The thumb is used to halt the lure at the
desired location and to prevent spool overrun. Though modern
centrifigal braking systems help to control backlash, using a bait
casting reel still requires practice, and a certain amount of finesse
on the part of the fisherman for best results.