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Old April 7th, 2010, 03:04 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mark Bowen
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Default And speaking of Obama's bio...


"jeff" wrote in message
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On 4/6/2010 9:53 AM, wrote:
I don't know exactly why - probably the "Frank" character telling a young
"Bar"
about "the facts of colored life" combined with the WP's daily email
"briefings," but these recent three pieces in the WP brought the recent
"discussion" involving Obama's bio to mind

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...040202347.html

and/versus:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...rc=nl_opinions

(Note - the latter was in the WPs daily "Opinion" email labeled/linked as
follows (the complete link tag):

"Eugene Robinson
The Forgotten District
Where's the help for the black underclass?"

combined with this article linked-to in the news brief email:

Obama to discuss needs of black community
President Obama will sit down Tuesday with about 20 black religious
leaders,
including representatives of the major African American denominations, in
the
second White House meeting in three months to discuss the needs of the
black
community.

(the full article is
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...rc=nl_headline)

IAC, since, apparently, the only two people in the world who consider
Obama to
be bi-racial are Obama and me, why isn't the election of a
"black"/"African-American person as the President of the United States at
least
some indication that "blacks" have come a long way, baby...brother....?
And
maybe it should indicate that views attributed to "Frank" aren't anymore
appropriate than David Duke's (or whatever loon(s) are leading the
sheetcutters
these days), nor are those of opportunists like Jackson and Sharpton or
"guilty
white liberal" paternalist "PC"ers in a modern, progressing world...

And an aside to jeff - thus far, IMO, Obama's "job" with regard to racial
"traps" has been pretty good. He appears to have avoided most of race
nonsense
from all sides (the Gates ****up being an exception, but at the end of
the day,
not that big a deal), but I do disagree with his refusal thus far to
fully (and
accurately) address his heritage as the product of a white "American"
mother and
a "black" "African" father. I don't particularly fault him for it - a
pol has
to, well, pander to their base(s) - but, again IMO, he could do a world
of good
for the whole racial issue, at least insofar as "regular people"
(non-public
figures without a "public" agenda) are concerned - if he were to address
it
forthrightly and head-on. And I'm not talking about might appear to be
"popular" with a particular base, I'm talking about what's right.

R




why is that a "what's right" issue? because it will satisfy you? it's a
looney issue to me...a baiting issue that serves no national or political
purpose. what makes it important to you? why and how will it help "regular
people"?

imo, he wrote a book addressing his heritage adequately. what is lacking
in the book that you need said?

i'm more interested in his efforts and statements as president than i am
some additional explanation of his heritage - an explanation that, imo,
will satisfy none of the close-minded obama haters and will add nothing
new.

the current right wing of our political discourse is and will remain a
mystery to me...it's arrogant, calculating, hate and propaganda for the
most part. it gurgles in some, boils in others...most think they are
entitled to express their vitriole against their countrymen and their
president.

i yearn for "regular people". i think we all have our own idea of what
that means.

if you've seen any of the photos or videos of the faces and reactions, or
read the statements, etc. of black americans (african-americans, if you
prefer) upon first learning of Obama's election as prez...i don't see how
you or anyone can deny the impact of his election on a significant
population of this country - a population that claims him as uniquely one
of them, and an impact that included a sense of pride and citizenship
recaptured or discovered. that was an important moment in my life,
revealing a level of emotion i had rarely noticed in a segment of our
society that suffers disproportionately (for whatever reason you or others
might believe) in education, income, employment, elected office,
incarceration, crime, housing, etc.

yeah, i reckon i missed your point...

jeff


I love you Mr. Miller. Not only because you are a fine and decent person,
but because you have a sal****er fishing vessel.

My buddy John and I fished Upper Creek yesterday. Hiked up to the
cable-crossing put-in, fished up and *almost down* the 5 tier
waterfall--water level is high and the water is running fast, so climbing up
the fals was deadly and we had to go up the ridgeside around the first two
tiers. We fished up to the campsite by the waterfall that comes off of
Chestnut Mountain and ten hiked back out over Raven's Cliff--like you and I
did that one year. I fell a number of times on the dry leaves, but that was
on the way in coming down the put-in trail. I went down one time and flipped
over the deadfall log that yo have to climb over--thought that I was going
all the way to the bottom but was able to grab hold the log.

Fishing was poor, most of the day. I suppose the current flow had something
to do with it, as we caught fish above the falls in the slower flat waters.
I will place some pics on alt.binary.pictures.fishing-none of fish, just
scenary pics..

Op