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"go-bassn" wrote in message
... Bob - I didn't recommend the WW hook (I love that name) as a dropshot hook, just as a weedless wacky hook. I know that. I think I said that you reccomended as a wacky hook. I ran across a refference to using as a drop shot somewhere else. May be a moot point anyway. The guy at RI not only doesn't want to sell to me he was downright rude about it using profanity to me on the phone. Got any alternative suggestions for a good wacky worm hook? Bob La Londe A simple bent shank worm hook (hooking the bait T-style) in a small size is the weedless solution to dropshotting. Rodney's hook, IMHO, is too much hook for a dropshot finesse presentation, and does nothing that a regular hook properly tied with a polomar knot does (except maybe cost more lol). The beauty & appeal of a dropshot rig is rooted in its simplicity & lack of "extra" material. As for missing fish, a standard dropshot rig, when fished & rigged properly & presented on the right tackle, should be a 98% success rate rig anyway. Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... I finally tried out Rodney's standup hook. It seemed to perform ok, but it tended to get wrapped up in the line. I have caught three fish on it on three different outings, and for very short range presentations it worked fine. I don't think I have missed any fish with it. I also have tried the W.W.Hook that Warren reccomended for my wacky worming as a drop shot hook. It worked equally as well with good hook ups on several fish, and I do not believe I have missed any fish with it. It also can get wrapped up in the line, but it did not seem to do so as often and was not as bad. To be honest, when I criticized the ability of SW spinner baits to get tangled up in the line several in this news group criticized my casting technique and some went as far as to say I had to be screwing up to get it it tangled like I described. However, when I can clearly see a difference in line tagles with the more complicated hook I have to assume there is a correlation. My partner showed me how he ties a Palomar knot that makes a hook stand straight out from the line even after fishing with it all day long. If a person can master that there is no real need for either of these hooks, but I didn't quite get the trick to it. Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and grip the tag end of the line slightly. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com |
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"go-bassn" wrote in message
... Bob - I didn't recommend the WW hook (I love that name) as a dropshot hook, just as a weedless wacky hook. I know that. I think I said that you reccomended as a wacky hook. I ran across a refference to using as a drop shot somewhere else. May be a moot point anyway. The guy at RI not only doesn't want to sell to me he was downright rude about it using profanity to me on the phone. Got any alternative suggestions for a good wacky worm hook? Bob La Londe A simple bent shank worm hook (hooking the bait T-style) in a small size is the weedless solution to dropshotting. Rodney's hook, IMHO, is too much hook for a dropshot finesse presentation, and does nothing that a regular hook properly tied with a polomar knot does (except maybe cost more lol). The beauty & appeal of a dropshot rig is rooted in its simplicity & lack of "extra" material. As for missing fish, a standard dropshot rig, when fished & rigged properly & presented on the right tackle, should be a 98% success rate rig anyway. Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... I finally tried out Rodney's standup hook. It seemed to perform ok, but it tended to get wrapped up in the line. I have caught three fish on it on three different outings, and for very short range presentations it worked fine. I don't think I have missed any fish with it. I also have tried the W.W.Hook that Warren reccomended for my wacky worming as a drop shot hook. It worked equally as well with good hook ups on several fish, and I do not believe I have missed any fish with it. It also can get wrapped up in the line, but it did not seem to do so as often and was not as bad. To be honest, when I criticized the ability of SW spinner baits to get tangled up in the line several in this news group criticized my casting technique and some went as far as to say I had to be screwing up to get it it tangled like I described. However, when I can clearly see a difference in line tagles with the more complicated hook I have to assume there is a correlation. My partner showed me how he ties a Palomar knot that makes a hook stand straight out from the line even after fishing with it all day long. If a person can master that there is no real need for either of these hooks, but I didn't quite get the trick to it. Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and grip the tag end of the line slightly. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com |
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Really? Please, go into specific details! I don't want to support someone
like that... Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Bob - I didn't recommend the WW hook (I love that name) as a dropshot hook, just as a weedless wacky hook. I know that. I think I said that you reccomended as a wacky hook. I ran across a refference to using as a drop shot somewhere else. May be a moot point anyway. The guy at RI not only doesn't want to sell to me he was downright rude about it using profanity to me on the phone. Got any alternative suggestions for a good wacky worm hook? Bob La Londe A simple bent shank worm hook (hooking the bait T-style) in a small size is the weedless solution to dropshotting. Rodney's hook, IMHO, is too much hook for a dropshot finesse presentation, and does nothing that a regular hook properly tied with a polomar knot does (except maybe cost more lol). The beauty & appeal of a dropshot rig is rooted in its simplicity & lack of "extra" material. As for missing fish, a standard dropshot rig, when fished & rigged properly & presented on the right tackle, should be a 98% success rate rig anyway. Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... I finally tried out Rodney's standup hook. It seemed to perform ok, but it tended to get wrapped up in the line. I have caught three fish on it on three different outings, and for very short range presentations it worked fine. I don't think I have missed any fish with it. I also have tried the W.W.Hook that Warren reccomended for my wacky worming as a drop shot hook. It worked equally as well with good hook ups on several fish, and I do not believe I have missed any fish with it. It also can get wrapped up in the line, but it did not seem to do so as often and was not as bad. To be honest, when I criticized the ability of SW spinner baits to get tangled up in the line several in this news group criticized my casting technique and some went as far as to say I had to be screwing up to get it it tangled like I described. However, when I can clearly see a difference in line tagles with the more complicated hook I have to assume there is a correlation. My partner showed me how he ties a Palomar knot that makes a hook stand straight out from the line even after fishing with it all day long. If a person can master that there is no real need for either of these hooks, but I didn't quite get the trick to it. Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and grip the tag end of the line slightly. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com |
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Bob La Londe wrote:
Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and grip the tag end of the line slightly. On added feature of the Stand out is when the line straightens out against the weight it "kicks" the lure for added action -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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See my other post for details. Its pretty funny.
Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Really? Please, go into specific details! I don't want to support someone like that... Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Bob - I didn't recommend the WW hook (I love that name) as a dropshot hook, just as a weedless wacky hook. I know that. I think I said that you reccomended as a wacky hook. I ran across a refference to using as a drop shot somewhere else. May be a moot point anyway. The guy at RI not only doesn't want to sell to me he was downright rude about it using profanity to me on the phone. Got any alternative suggestions for a good wacky worm hook? Bob La Londe A simple bent shank worm hook (hooking the bait T-style) in a small size is the weedless solution to dropshotting. Rodney's hook, IMHO, is too much hook for a dropshot finesse presentation, and does nothing that a regular hook properly tied with a polomar knot does (except maybe cost more lol). The beauty & appeal of a dropshot rig is rooted in its simplicity & lack of "extra" material. As for missing fish, a standard dropshot rig, when fished & rigged properly & presented on the right tackle, should be a 98% success rate rig anyway. Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... I finally tried out Rodney's standup hook. It seemed to perform ok, but it tended to get wrapped up in the line. I have caught three fish on it on three different outings, and for very short range presentations it worked fine. I don't think I have missed any fish with it. I also have tried the W.W.Hook that Warren reccomended for my wacky worming as a drop shot hook. It worked equally as well with good hook ups on several fish, and I do not believe I have missed any fish with it. It also can get wrapped up in the line, but it did not seem to do so as often and was not as bad. To be honest, when I criticized the ability of SW spinner baits to get tangled up in the line several in this news group criticized my casting technique and some went as far as to say I had to be screwing up to get it it tangled like I described. However, when I can clearly see a difference in line tagles with the more complicated hook I have to assume there is a correlation. My partner showed me how he ties a Palomar knot that makes a hook stand straight out from the line even after fishing with it all day long. If a person can master that there is no real need for either of these hooks, but I didn't quite get the trick to it. Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and grip the tag end of the line slightly. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com |
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Can't see it Bob, where?
Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... See my other post for details. Its pretty funny. Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Really? Please, go into specific details! I don't want to support someone like that... Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Bob - I didn't recommend the WW hook (I love that name) as a dropshot hook, just as a weedless wacky hook. I know that. I think I said that you reccomended as a wacky hook. I ran across a refference to using as a drop shot somewhere else. May be a moot point anyway. The guy at RI not only doesn't want to sell to me he was downright rude about it using profanity to me on the phone. Got any alternative suggestions for a good wacky worm hook? Bob La Londe A simple bent shank worm hook (hooking the bait T-style) in a small size is the weedless solution to dropshotting. Rodney's hook, IMHO, is too much hook for a dropshot finesse presentation, and does nothing that a regular hook properly tied with a polomar knot does (except maybe cost more lol). The beauty & appeal of a dropshot rig is rooted in its simplicity & lack of "extra" material. As for missing fish, a standard dropshot rig, when fished & rigged properly & presented on the right tackle, should be a 98% success rate rig anyway. Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... I finally tried out Rodney's standup hook. It seemed to perform ok, but it tended to get wrapped up in the line. I have caught three fish on it on three different outings, and for very short range presentations it worked fine. I don't think I have missed any fish with it. I also have tried the W.W.Hook that Warren reccomended for my wacky worming as a drop shot hook. It worked equally as well with good hook ups on several fish, and I do not believe I have missed any fish with it. It also can get wrapped up in the line, but it did not seem to do so as often and was not as bad. To be honest, when I criticized the ability of SW spinner baits to get tangled up in the line several in this news group criticized my casting technique and some went as far as to say I had to be screwing up to get it it tangled like I described. However, when I can clearly see a difference in line tagles with the more complicated hook I have to assume there is a correlation. My partner showed me how he ties a Palomar knot that makes a hook stand straight out from the line even after fishing with it all day long. If a person can master that there is no real need for either of these hooks, but I didn't quite get the trick to it. Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and grip the tag end of the line slightly. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com |
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"What is the problem..."
You replied to the original post earlier. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Can't see it Bob, where? Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... See my other post for details. Its pretty funny. Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Really? Please, go into specific details! I don't want to support someone like that... Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Bob - I didn't recommend the WW hook (I love that name) as a dropshot hook, just as a weedless wacky hook. I know that. I think I said that you reccomended as a wacky hook. I ran across a refference to using as a drop shot somewhere else. May be a moot point anyway. The guy at RI not only doesn't want to sell to me he was downright rude about it using profanity to me on the phone. Got any alternative suggestions for a good wacky worm hook? Bob La Londe A simple bent shank worm hook (hooking the bait T-style) in a small size is the weedless solution to dropshotting. Rodney's hook, IMHO, is too much hook for a dropshot finesse presentation, and does nothing that a regular hook properly tied with a polomar knot does (except maybe cost more lol). The beauty & appeal of a dropshot rig is rooted in its simplicity & lack of "extra" material. As for missing fish, a standard dropshot rig, when fished & rigged properly & presented on the right tackle, should be a 98% success rate rig anyway. Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... I finally tried out Rodney's standup hook. It seemed to perform ok, but it tended to get wrapped up in the line. I have caught three fish on it on three different outings, and for very short range presentations it worked fine. I don't think I have missed any fish with it. I also have tried the W.W.Hook that Warren reccomended for my wacky worming as a drop shot hook. It worked equally as well with good hook ups on several fish, and I do not believe I have missed any fish with it. It also can get wrapped up in the line, but it did not seem to do so as often and was not as bad. To be honest, when I criticized the ability of SW spinner baits to get tangled up in the line several in this news group criticized my casting technique and some went as far as to say I had to be screwing up to get it it tangled like I described. However, when I can clearly see a difference in line tagles with the more complicated hook I have to assume there is a correlation. My partner showed me how he ties a Palomar knot that makes a hook stand straight out from the line even after fishing with it all day long. If a person can master that there is no real need for either of these hooks, but I didn't quite get the trick to it. Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and grip the tag end of the line slightly. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com |
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Yeah, I can tie it up just fine. I just need to find the right hook for it.
If I am careful one hook lasts me for several outings so its no big deal if I only have a few on hand. "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Holy cow Bob, that is truly amazing. Can't blame you for feeling the way they do. I'm pretty sure you can tie-up some of those mono weedguards yourself, can't you? Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "What is the problem..." You replied to the original post earlier. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Can't see it Bob, where? Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... See my other post for details. Its pretty funny. Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Really? Please, go into specific details! I don't want to support someone like that... Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Bob - I didn't recommend the WW hook (I love that name) as a dropshot hook, just as a weedless wacky hook. I know that. I think I said that you reccomended as a wacky hook. I ran across a refference to using as a drop shot somewhere else. May be a moot point anyway. The guy at RI not only doesn't want to sell to me he was downright rude about it using profanity to me on the phone. Got any alternative suggestions for a good wacky worm hook? Bob La Londe A simple bent shank worm hook (hooking the bait T-style) in a small size is the weedless solution to dropshotting. Rodney's hook, IMHO, is too much hook for a dropshot finesse presentation, and does nothing that a regular hook properly tied with a polomar knot does (except maybe cost more lol). The beauty & appeal of a dropshot rig is rooted in its simplicity & lack of "extra" material. As for missing fish, a standard dropshot rig, when fished & rigged properly & presented on the right tackle, should be a 98% success rate rig anyway. Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... I finally tried out Rodney's standup hook. It seemed to perform ok, but it tended to get wrapped up in the line. I have caught three fish on it on three different outings, and for very short range presentations it worked fine. I don't think I have missed any fish with it. I also have tried the W.W.Hook that Warren reccomended for my wacky worming as a drop shot hook. It worked equally as well with good hook ups on several fish, and I do not believe I have missed any fish with it. It also can get wrapped up in the line, but it did not seem to do so as often and was not as bad. To be honest, when I criticized the ability of SW spinner baits to get tangled up in the line several in this news group criticized my casting technique and some went as far as to say I had to be screwing up to get it it tangled like I described. However, when I can clearly see a difference in line tagles with the more complicated hook I have to assume there is a correlation. My partner showed me how he ties a Palomar knot that makes a hook stand straight out from the line even after fishing with it all day long. If a person can master that there is no real need for either of these hooks, but I didn't quite get the trick to it. Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and grip the tag end of the line slightly. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com |
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Yeah, I can tie it up just fine. I just need to find the right hook for it.
If I am careful one hook lasts me for several outings so its no big deal if I only have a few on hand. "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Holy cow Bob, that is truly amazing. Can't blame you for feeling the way they do. I'm pretty sure you can tie-up some of those mono weedguards yourself, can't you? Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "What is the problem..." You replied to the original post earlier. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Can't see it Bob, where? Warren -- http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com 2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... See my other post for details. Its pretty funny. Bob La Londe www.YumaBassMan.com "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Really? Please, go into specific details! I don't want to support someone like that... Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Bob - I didn't recommend the WW hook (I love that name) as a dropshot hook, just as a weedless wacky hook. I know that. I think I said that you reccomended as a wacky hook. I ran across a refference to using as a drop shot somewhere else. May be a moot point anyway. The guy at RI not only doesn't want to sell to me he was downright rude about it using profanity to me on the phone. Got any alternative suggestions for a good wacky worm hook? Bob La Londe A simple bent shank worm hook (hooking the bait T-style) in a small size is the weedless solution to dropshotting. Rodney's hook, IMHO, is too much hook for a dropshot finesse presentation, and does nothing that a regular hook properly tied with a polomar knot does (except maybe cost more lol). The beauty & appeal of a dropshot rig is rooted in its simplicity & lack of "extra" material. As for missing fish, a standard dropshot rig, when fished & rigged properly & presented on the right tackle, should be a 98% success rate rig anyway. Warren "Bob La Londe" wrote in message ... I finally tried out Rodney's standup hook. It seemed to perform ok, but it tended to get wrapped up in the line. I have caught three fish on it on three different outings, and for very short range presentations it worked fine. I don't think I have missed any fish with it. I also have tried the W.W.Hook that Warren reccomended for my wacky worming as a drop shot hook. It worked equally as well with good hook ups on several fish, and I do not believe I have missed any fish with it. It also can get wrapped up in the line, but it did not seem to do so as often and was not as bad. To be honest, when I criticized the ability of SW spinner baits to get tangled up in the line several in this news group criticized my casting technique and some went as far as to say I had to be screwing up to get it it tangled like I described. However, when I can clearly see a difference in line tagles with the more complicated hook I have to assume there is a correlation. My partner showed me how he ties a Palomar knot that makes a hook stand straight out from the line even after fishing with it all day long. If a person can master that there is no real need for either of these hooks, but I didn't quite get the trick to it. Personally I think the Standout Hook by Daiichi and the W.W.Hook by Reaction Innovations are excellent choices for drop shotting, and they would be far superior for most anglers over using any other standard hook for drop shotting. They both use the weight and the tag of the line to hold the hook in what looks like an optimum angle for getting a hook set. The Standout Hook may be slightly easier to rig with its hard wire loop to drop the tag end of the line through. I had to pick up the mono loop with my finger nail to get the tag end through on the W.W.Hook, but it would lay back down and grip the tag end of the line slightly. -- ** FREE Fishing Lures ** Weekly drawing ** Public Fishing and Boating Forums ** www.YumaBassMan.com |
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