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Old February 5th, 2005, 10:55 PM
Larry L
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Default TR --- I hate statistics

I keep my fishing journal on my website. I wanted a puter program journal
that did certain things, but couldn't find one I liked. A simple scripting
language designed to control browser output, is all the puterspeak I knew,
so I rolled my own and put it when I can access it from nearly anywhere.

Bored, on a rainy day around X-mas, I got the idea of having the entries
generate statistics. I sat down and re-wrote the script at that time.

Yesterday was the year's first that I unpacked a rod, and it leaves me
regreting the statistics idea

Cut and paste, here are my stats for 2005 :-(



Note: These statistics are calculated based on these rules.

(1) Anytime I rig up a rod and leave the truck it is counted as a day's
fishing, even if I never take a cast and or I'm back at the truck in only a
few minutes.


(2) My "fishing" hours are "truck to truck" times, rounded up to nearest
quarter hour. Thus, if I leave the vehicle, walk an hour, look for fish an
hour, make casts for fifteen minutes, take a half hour lunch, then walk an
hour back to the truck ... it will be calculated as a 3.75 hour day.


(3) Landed means to hand, i.e. I touched the fish and intentionally set it
free. If the fish escapes at the last second, it is recorded in the "hooked
and lost" statistics. Very small fish, for the water being fished, are not
counted at all.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Total 2005 fishing days, thus far, is 1.

Total hours fished in 2005 is, 2.25.

Average fishing time per day is 2.25 hours.

In 2005, I have landed a total of 0 fish, consisting of 0 Rainbow Trout, 0
Brown Trout, 0 Cutthroat Trout, 0 Brook Trout, and 0 other game fish.

On my best day in 2005, so far, I landed 0 fish.

On average, I have landed 0 fish per hour of fishing,

I have, also, hooked, but lost, 0 fish in 2005.


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Old February 5th, 2005, 11:45 PM
Larry L
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"Larry L" wrote

I keep my fishing journal on my website.



oh, and yesterday's full report

http://www.kimshew.com/flyfish/displ...php?log_id=143


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Old February 8th, 2005, 06:32 AM
Mu Young Lee
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Larry L wrote:

http://www.kimshew.com/flyfish/displ...php?log_id=143


I'd love to live within a short drive of stream of any real substance.
Los Angeles River does not count.

Mu
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Old February 8th, 2005, 09:55 AM
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Mu wrote:I'd love to live within a short drive of stream of any real
substance.
Los Angeles River does not count.

Mu


I'm with Mu on this one. We have to count the number of states we have to drive
thru or the number of days driving to get to any good trout water.

Big Dale
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Old February 8th, 2005, 04:33 PM
Larry L
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"Big Dale" wrote

Yes, now that you point it out, I am a bit of a spoiled brat. I have
fished to rising trout, feeding on baetis, under the bridge going into town
one time, ant that is about three miles from my door. The place I
visited last week is maybe 10 miles, and another 5 gets you to the section
of the lower Stan that 99% of the people come to fish. That section is
enough up the hill to be a lot more like a mountain river, one can usually
catch a few fish, I've gotten them to 19 inches, but it's still water that
you can only reach the edges of, and requires small nymphs fished very deep
in pretty damn fast, heavy currents. It's also usually crowded, mainly
with Bay Area people that drive over.

I have Doctor appointments today, getting ready for surgery, but you've made
me feel guilty and I'll go out a few times and try harder to appreciate my
'home water' on it's own terms .... thanks for the wakeup slap, I deserved
it



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Old February 9th, 2005, 01:03 AM
Big Dale
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Larry wrote:snipI have Doctor appointments today, getting ready for surgery,
but you've made
me feel guilty and I'll go out a few times and try harder to appreciate my
'home water' on it's own terms .... thanks for the wakeup slap, I deserved
it


I didn't mean to lay a guilt trip on you. I don't have surgery scheduled till
Thursday myself. I happen to prefer to fish for bluegill rather than trout
anyway. And I do enjoy driving a few days once in a while.

Big Dale
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Old February 8th, 2005, 04:52 PM
Wayne Knight
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Big Dale wrote:

I'm with Mu on this one. We have to count the number of states we

have to drive
thru


What are you complaining about, New Mexico is only one state over.
bseg

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Old February 9th, 2005, 01:04 AM
Big Dale
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Wayne wrote:What are you complaining about, New Mexico is only one state over.
bseg


I like a lot of New Mexico, but west Texas lost it's charm for me a few decades
ago.

Big Dale
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Old February 6th, 2005, 12:14 AM
Gene Cottrell
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Larry,

I agree with most of your rules except for the "landed" category. I count
it as caught if I get my hand on any part of the leader or fish. I justify
this by figuring that I was going to release it anyway, the last fish I kept
was in September 1980. It really doesn't matter though, since I don't keep a
log anymore. I enjoyed your e-mail and am sure your stats will improve over
time :-)

Gene

"Larry L" wrote in message
news
I keep my fishing journal on my website. I wanted a puter program

journal
that did certain things, but couldn't find one I liked. A simple

scripting
language designed to control browser output, is all the puterspeak I knew,
so I rolled my own and put it when I can access it from nearly anywhere.

Bored, on a rainy day around X-mas, I got the idea of having the entries
generate statistics. I sat down and re-wrote the script at that time.

Yesterday was the year's first that I unpacked a rod, and it leaves me
regreting the statistics idea

Cut and paste, here are my stats for 2005 :-(



Note: These statistics are calculated based on these rules.

(1) Anytime I rig up a rod and leave the truck it is counted as a day's
fishing, even if I never take a cast and or I'm back at the truck in only

a
few minutes.


(2) My "fishing" hours are "truck to truck" times, rounded up to nearest
quarter hour. Thus, if I leave the vehicle, walk an hour, look for fish an
hour, make casts for fifteen minutes, take a half hour lunch, then walk an
hour back to the truck ... it will be calculated as a 3.75 hour day.


(3) Landed means to hand, i.e. I touched the fish and intentionally set it
free. If the fish escapes at the last second, it is recorded in the

"hooked
and lost" statistics. Very small fish, for the water being fished, are not
counted at all.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------

------


Total 2005 fishing days, thus far, is 1.

Total hours fished in 2005 is, 2.25.

Average fishing time per day is 2.25 hours.

In 2005, I have landed a total of 0 fish, consisting of 0 Rainbow Trout, 0
Brown Trout, 0 Cutthroat Trout, 0 Brook Trout, and 0 other game fish.

On my best day in 2005, so far, I landed 0 fish.

On average, I have landed 0 fish per hour of fishing,

I have, also, hooked, but lost, 0 fish in 2005.




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Old February 6th, 2005, 12:12 PM
riverman
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"Gene Cottrell" wrote in message
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Larry,

I agree with most of your rules except for the "landed" category. I count
it as caught if I get my hand on any part of the leader or fish. I
justify
this by figuring that I was going to release it anyway, the last fish I
kept
was in September 1980. It really doesn't matter though, since I don't keep
a
log anymore. I enjoyed your e-mail and am sure your stats will improve
over
time :-)


Hmm, personally I don't count a fish as landed until I have it in my hand,
with complete control over it. The hardest part (aside from getting it to
take the fly) is to get it from your feet to your hand, with the hook out.
Grabbing the leader and having it break off (or having the fish spit it out)
is equivalent in my mind to pulling the hook out of his mouth while setting
it.
Of course, YMMV
--riverman


 




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