Camp Stove for Penn's Clave?

Anyone have any suggestions for a camp stove? I have an MSR Whisperlite
that I use for solo overnighters, but it is not good for much more than
heating water. There was a time when one had basically one choice went it
came to purchasing a camp stove; namely, a Coleman white gas stove. Today,
there is a mind-boggling plethora of white gas and propane stoves from which
to choose.

On 4/28/05 11:56 AM, in article , "Mark"
wrote:

Anyone have any suggestions for a camp stove? I have an MSR Whisperlite
that I use for solo overnighters, but it is not good for much more than
heating water. There was a time when one had basically one choice went it
came to purchasing a camp stove; namely, a Coleman white gas stove. Today,
there is a mind-boggling plethora of white gas and propane stoves from which
to choose.

Yeh, those Whisperlites blow. Get a Svea. :-)

My camp stove stayed packed at Penns last year, 'cause Frank had (as part of
the Tent-mahal complex) a Coleman two burner propane setup, and there were
only three (two... none!) of us tenting. Worked a treat. I've got a
two-burner Coleman white gas stove for car camping, probably counts as an
antique now, as it's even older than my Svea. But it works fine too. One
consideration is what other fueled appliances you have. If you've got a
propane lantern, might make sense to get the propane stove. Likewise with
white gas.

Price for the stove is roughly the same for either model, so you simply need
to decide which type of fuel you want to carry around. Propane might take
slightly less fiddling (priming and what not).

Haven't checked, but my guess is white gas burns somewhat hotter than
propane.

Bill

"William Claspy" wrote in message
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Yeh, those Whisperlites blow. Get a Svea. :-)

My camp stove stayed packed at Penns last year, 'cause Frank had (as part
of
the Tent-mahal complex) a Coleman two burner propane setup, and there were
only three (two... none!) of us tenting. Worked a treat. I've got a
two-burner Coleman white gas stove for car camping, probably counts as an
antique now, as it's even older than my Svea. But it works fine too. One
consideration is what other fueled appliances you have. If you've got a
propane lantern, might make sense to get the propane stove. Likewise with
white gas.

Price for the stove is roughly the same for either model, so you simply
need
to decide which type of fuel you want to carry around. Propane might take
slightly less fiddling (priming and what not).

Haven't checked, but my guess is white gas burns somewhat hotter than
propane.



Presently, I do not have a lantern. I used to have one of those little red
Coleman 200a lanterns from the late 50s that I purchased from a second-hand
shop as a boy scout back in the early seventies, but a collector threw
twenty-dollars bills at me until I gave it up. I stopped camping for over
twenty years, so I figured that I would never use it again, that was, until
I decided to start camping again last fall.



For this trip, I am basically purchasing all new. So, far I have purchased
a Slumberjack Doublelite 20F (three season) sleeping bag, Therm-A-Rest Camp
Rest pad (I cannot sleep on an air mattress because it makes my back hurt,
plus it is like a heat sink), and a closeout Coleman 8x8 tent (that is
supposed to have fully-taped seams). If needed, I also have five-gallon
collapsible water jugs.



One last thing: firing up that little red Coleman 200a was like turning on a
halogen flood light in the woods. I understand that a lot of campers now
frown upon the use of these lanterns. I see that Coleman makes a mini
white gas lantern for the backpacker that makes the 200a look huge. Does
anyone have experience with this lantern? Heck, I might just get one of
those LED lanterns to avoid confrontations with other campers.

On 4/28/05 12:57 PM, in article , "Mark"
wrote:

One last thing: firing up that little red Coleman 200a was like turning on a
halogen flood light in the woods. I understand that a lot of campers now
frown upon the use of these lanterns.

We had one when I was a kid, and I never liked 'em, especially when the
folks in the next spot over (car camping) had one going late into the night.

I see that Coleman makes a mini
white gas lantern for the backpacker that makes the 200a look huge. Does
anyone have experience with this lantern? Heck, I might just get one of
those LED lanterns to avoid confrontations with other campers.

Wolfgang has one. Very nice. I'm going to add one to my kit. Not nearly
as bright as the two-mantle models, but plenty to read or play cards by.

For Penns, also add a headlamp-type flashlight to your supplies. I have a
Petzl something-or-other. Some of the best hatches end when it is mighty
dark and a headlamp can save your keester getting out of the river and back
to the vehicle and/or for changing flies when there is very little available
light (not that changing the fly is going to help :-). Also helpful for
stumbling back to camp after raffle night.

Bill

"Mark" wrote

I stopped camping for over
twenty years, so I figured that I would never use it again, that was,
until
I decided to start camping again last fall.


It seems THE sure fire way to need something that has gone unused for years
is to sell it or throw it away.

I recently tossed three pairs of nearly unused ( as opposed to new) rock
climbing shoes, that have spent years in my momento collection in the barn
...... ain't no way my lard ass is going to ever climb again. It wasn't
three weeks later that my kid came in all excited because the gym at his
soon to be college has a rock climbing wall and he thought it looked like
great fun ....yes he wears the same size as the tossed but nearly unworn
shoes

Now this is a kid that has shown virtually zero interest in outdoorsy
things, and instead excels at nerdy stuff .... which is just fine, he can be
what he is designed to be, that is what I want for him .... but, I'm
convinced that some god of discards is responsible for his sudden interest
in climbing walls, and if I still had the shoes he'd have never gone there

"William Claspy" wrote in message
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On 4/28/05 12:57 PM, in article , "Mark"
wrote:


For Penns, also add a headlamp-type flashlight to your supplies. I have a
Petzl something-or-other. Some of the best hatches end when it is mighty
dark and a headlamp can save your keester getting out of the river and
back
to the vehicle and/or for changing flies when there is very little
available
light (not that changing the fly is going to help :-). Also helpful for
stumbling back to camp after raffle night.



I already have a non-LED head lamp that I use for getting in and out of the
woods while hunting.

"William Claspy" wrote in message
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On 4/28/05 12:57 PM, in article , "Mark"
wrote:

One last thing: firing up that little red Coleman 200a was like turning
on a
halogen flood light in the woods. I understand that a lot of campers now
frown upon the use of these lanterns.

We had one when I was a kid, and I never liked 'em, especially when the
folks in the next spot over (car camping) had one going late into the
night.

Yep.

I see that Coleman makes a mini
white gas lantern for the backpacker that makes the 200a look huge. Does
anyone have experience with this lantern? Heck, I might just get one of
those LED lanterns to avoid confrontations with other campers.

Wolfgang has one.

Yep.

Very nice.

Yep.

I'm going to add one to my kit. Not nearly
as bright as the two-mantle models,

Nope.

but plenty to read or play cards by.

Yep.

For Penns, also add a headlamp-type flashlight to your supplies.

Yep.

I have a
Petzl something-or-other. Some of the best hatches end when it is mighty
dark and a headlamp can save your keester getting out of the river and
back
to the vehicle and/or for changing flies when there is very little
available
light

Yep.

(not that changing the fly is going to help :-).

Nope.

Also helpful for
stumbling back to camp after raffle night.

Yep.

Bill

Yep.

Wolfgang
neither turgid nor oblique.

Wolfgang,

Is that tiny single mantle hard to light and keep going?

"Mark" wrote in message
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Wolfgang,

Is that tiny single mantle hard to light and keep going?

If you overfill the tank, it won't hold sufficient pressure......you'll have
to pump it every ten minutes or so until there is enough head space. Three
quarters full seems to work pretty well; and this will still allow several
hours of burn time.

It's no more diffiuclt to light than any of the other Coleman lamps, which
is to say, it can be a bit cantankerous but it never amounts to anything
more than a minor annoyance.....it WILL light eventually; it just takes a
couple of tries ocassionally.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:
[snipped some yeps and nopes]

Also helpful for
stumbling back to camp after raffle night.


Yep.


Bill


Yep.

Wolfgang
neither turgid nor oblique.



kinda maudlin though...for a wolfgang post, that is. and, btw, how's
the planning goin for our yooper adventures?

jeff