Green Drake Spinners

Okay, also called the coffin fly. Big assed bug, and therein lies the
problem. Who uses what for the extended body? I've just ordered some white
porcupine quills. I've also seen a 4X long #4 streamer hook with a dubbed
body. Thinking about doing the same, but just wrapping it in white foam
(better floatation).
Any other ideas?

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Frank Reid
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Frank Reid wrote:
Okay, also called the coffin fly. Big assed bug, and therein lies the
problem. Who uses what for the extended body? I've just ordered
some white porcupine quills. I've also seen a 4X long #4 streamer
hook with a dubbed body. Thinking about doing the same, but just
wrapping it in white foam (better floatation).
Any other ideas?

I'm using size 8 2xl dry fly hooks (Orvis 1638, TMC 5212, Mustad 94831).
Also a few 10s. Not bothering with anything fussy or fancy - a standard
Catskill style dry, a big honking one. Tying them with a cream colored body
(a little light olive and tan mixed in). Fishing in the dark, I expect that
to be close enough for either duns or spinners.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

"Stan Gula" wrote in
news:j%Wde.19646$3h7.6262@trndny05:

Frank Reid wrote:
Okay, also called the coffin fly. Big assed bug, and therein lies
the problem. Who uses what for the extended body? I've just ordered
some white porcupine quills. I've also seen a 4X long #4 streamer
hook with a dubbed body. Thinking about doing the same, but just
wrapping it in white foam (better floatation).
Any other ideas?

I'm using size 8 2xl dry fly hooks (Orvis 1638, TMC 5212, Mustad
94831). Also a few 10s. Not bothering with anything fussy or fancy -
a standard Catskill style dry, a big honking one. Tying them with a
cream colored body (a little light olive and tan mixed in). Fishing
in the dark, I expect that to be close enough for either duns or
spinners.

My best night ever on Penns was during a coffin fly fall. I bought a local
pattern, basically a big white feather tied onto the hook. Worked like a
charm

Scott

"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote


Okay, also called the coffin fly.

try a feather ( duck breast feathers work great) reversed. Leave a couple
fibers sticking out for tails and it makes a very light weight extended body

here is a quick look at what I mean on a real ( western :-) Green Drake ....
it could be tied a bit more compacted and slimmer to good result, but a fish
ate this one last year

http://www.kimshew.com/reversed.jpg

For more on the two feather mayfly go to
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flyt...40703fotw.html

Dave

On Tue, 3 May 2005 21:41:13 -0400, "Frank Reid"
moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote:

Okay, also called the coffin fly. Big assed bug, and therein lies the
problem. Who uses what for the extended body? I've just ordered some white
porcupine quills. I've also seen a 4X long #4 streamer hook with a dubbed
body. Thinking about doing the same, but just wrapping it in white foam
(better floatation).
Any other ideas?

"Larry L" wrote in news:bC4ee.698642
:

http://www.kimshew.com/reversed.jpg

That's essentially the fly I was talking about, but mine had no dubbed
body-- just the reversed feather tied on near the thorax. I can't remember
what the hackle was.

I stole the fly off of a friend who picked some up at flyfisherman's
paradise on the way into camp.

Scott

"Scott Seidman" wrote

That's essentially the fly I was talking about, but mine had no dubbed
body-- just the reversed feather tied on near the thorax. I can't
remember
what the hackle was.



probably a 'two feather may" .... I added some dubbing to try and help hold
a giant wing and some hackle in place .... and, I recently got some dubbing
closer to the feather color ... ah, for the next time ( hopefully late June
'05 ) G ..... but it probably isn't really needed, the link posted by
flyfisher@ shows the fly ..... it's a good "big mayfly" tie

"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in message
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Okay, also called the coffin fly. Big assed bug, and therein lies the
problem. Who uses what for the extended body?
Frank Reid

Hi Frank,
Extended bodies? Okay. I am going to fly tying. I've used deer, mono
(with a dubbing), running mono line, foam, chenille, New Dub, the reversed
feather concept, etc. I glanced through my fly boxes.
It appears I only carry one extended pattern anymore. . .that is an adult
damsel, in blue, olive and tan.
I do have a few "big" patterns for green drakes that I tie just on a long
shank hook, as Stan mentioned.
I did put into production a custom deer hair extended pattern a few years
ago where I tied the extended part of the body on a needle, then sorta
threaded it on a hook, like a worm, then tied the rest of the fly.
Anymore I guess I would go with foam, for a little bit more of durability.
Deer and feathers for an extended body work well, but even when I put
flexament, or goop, or other stuff on them, they didn't last as long as
foam.
In another thread some time ago, I mentioned a guy, Don Puterbaugh. (sp?)
He uses just a small piece of foam for a caddis pattern, giving a bit of
extension before the front part of the fly. Deadly pattern on the Arkansas
River here. He had a contract with Umpqua for a while, but I just noticed
the pattern in a Gander Mountain store here in the Denver area a day or so
ago. .
Don't think just Drakes, but other patterns as well.
Oh . . . I also use something I call micro chenille to do a simple mayfly
pattern. Extended body, and hackle. That is it. I do it in size 16 and
smaller. (normally 18-22) Can add a bit of dubbing if you wish. Caught
more than few fish. (Shhh . . . don't tell anybody)

So . . .for a coffin fly . . . spinner type . . .extended body . . .I would
probably use foam . . .wings of your choice. Foam color of your choice with
markers to color.
For durability, I'd have to go with Stan, and go with a long shanked mayfly
something.
Still, the best reference I have seen for extended fly flies is the book
"The Fly Tier's Benchside Reference". I just glanced at it. (dang . .
..that is the easy way . . . I had to do it the hard way . . . I don't
recommend the hard way)
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver

wrote:

For more on the two feather mayfly go to
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flyt...40703fotw.html

Cool looking fly, but aren't they very (one-fish) fragile?

JR

Standard length or 1x long hooks with a pair of hackle tip tails of
apt length and colour.
Been using that successfully for damsels and cicadas (as about a
different pair of body shapes as
you can imagine).

A tiny, miniscule weensy tiny drop of superglue (zap a gap) on the
stalks helps stiffen their
resolve and limit twisting around the hook bend.


Steve