Anybody Know Anything About Kayaks?

After the plastic boat embroglio I'm almost afraid to post this.

I'm looking for a way to get around on my favorite local rivers
(Current and Jack's Fork, Mo.) by myself. I followed the "canoe"
thread, and that led me to believe that a Kayak may be the best choice
for me.

I'm interested in a Kayak I can use to haul me and my gear (fishing
gear, sleeping bag, small tent, and a cooler) to a gravel bar where I
can put up away from the rest of humanity and fish for a couple of
days at a time, dawn to whenever the hell I'm ready to quit.

I don't want to do whitewater, I'm not interested in competitve
rowing. Just transportation to for me and my gear to places where
other people aren't.

So if you've got any insight, I'd appreciate it.
BTW, I'm NOT in the market for a dinghy.

Charles Crolley wrote:
After the plastic boat embroglio I'm almost afraid to post this.

I'm looking for a way to get around on my favorite local rivers
(Current and Jack's Fork, Mo.) by myself. I followed the "canoe"
thread, and that led me to believe that a Kayak may be the best choice
for me.

I'm interested in a Kayak I can use to haul me and my gear (fishing
gear, sleeping bag, small tent, and a cooler) to a gravel bar where I
can put up away from the rest of humanity and fish for a couple of
days at a time, dawn to whenever the hell I'm ready to quit.

I don't want to do whitewater, I'm not interested in competitve
rowing. Just transportation to for me and my gear to places where
other people aren't.

So if you've got any insight, I'd appreciate it.

I don't know what part of a canoe thread led you to believe
a kayak would be the best choice for hauling yourself and
your camping gear around but that doesn't sound right to me.

Several folks here prefer kayaks for various reasons but I
don't think the ability to haul gear and coolers is one of
them.

Disclaimer: I'm a canoe guy, own three of them.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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Charles Crolley wrote:

After the plastic boat embroglio I'm almost afraid to post this.

I'm looking for a way to get around on my favorite local rivers
(Current and Jack's Fork, Mo.) by myself. I followed the "canoe"
thread, and that led me to believe that a Kayak may be the best choice
for me.

I'm interested in a Kayak I can use to haul me and my gear (fishing
gear, sleeping bag, small tent, and a cooler) to a gravel bar where I
can put up away from the rest of humanity and fish for a couple of
days at a time, dawn to whenever the hell I'm ready to quit.

I don't want to do whitewater, I'm not interested in competitve
rowing. Just transportation to for me and my gear to places where
other people aren't.

So if you've got any insight, I'd appreciate it.
BTW, I'm NOT in the market for a dinghy.

Charles,
I've spent a fair amount of time fishing and hauling camping gear in
both canoes and kayaks. If it's just you and you don't have much gear
then a kayak is the way to go. If you have a buddy or are going out with
bigger supplies certainly go with the canoe. I have a Wilderness
Designs Pungo rec kayak that has proven to be a reliable companion. If
you get the optional small hatch it gives you an easy access to the back
otherwise you have to shove it all behind the folding seat. I did add a
cleat to one side of the cockpit then I clip a pulley attached to either
the for or aft carry loop for a small anchor. Going upstream the anchor
goes on the front and downstream on the back. The cockpit is roomy for
gear you need to get access to and there is a skirt available for it. I
don't do white water with it but it will slip through minor without an
issue.

These folks have a lot of interesting stuff on it although frankly some
folks take them farther offshore than I ever would.

http://www.kayakfishingstuff.com/

I usually use mine on local slow rivers and reservoirs although I would
like to get it out into the Chesapeake this fall for some schooly
Rockfish.

Allen

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:02:16 GMT, Charles Crolley
wrote:

After the plastic boat embroglio I'm almost afraid to post this.

I'm looking for a way to get around on my favorite local rivers
(Current and Jack's Fork, Mo.) by myself. I followed the "canoe"
thread, and that led me to believe that a Kayak may be the best choice
for me.

I'm interested in a Kayak I can use to haul me and my gear (fishing
gear, sleeping bag, small tent, and a cooler) to a gravel bar where I
can put up away from the rest of humanity and fish for a couple of
days at a time, dawn to whenever the hell I'm ready to quit.

I don't want to do whitewater, I'm not interested in competitve
rowing. Just transportation to for me and my gear to places where
other people aren't.

So if you've got any insight, I'd appreciate it.
BTW, I'm NOT in the market for a dinghy.



Practically any recreational kayak (as opposed to whitewater or
touring kayaks (though you might want a touring for more storage))
would do for everything but the cooler. Old Town has some nice sturdy
kayaks. Try their Web page to get an idea of what you want.

To get the cooler in the 'yak, you'd probably want to get a two
seater. One seat for you, one for the cooler. It'd be a bit longer
than a singleton, but have lots more storage space.
http://www.otccanoe.com/ and click on kayaks. Even if you don't want
an Old Town after giving it some thought, it'll be a good starting
place for you.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
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for me gear equals canoe.

But for day trips on smaller rivers you can't beat a kayak.

john

I own both.

Love the canoe for anything longer than two days. Old Town 16ft, so
old I really cannot tell you the model, composite stuff, and a great
travel wagon for us when we go somewhere.

Use the kayak a lot more - I started with sit in kayak, an old town,
several years ago, but have gravitated to the sit ON kayak. Wilderness
Tarpon.

It seems that, for what you want to do, a canoe is a better fit - more
stuff, get there, camp out. The kayak can do that for you, but you're
always going to have to leave behind something.

Your best bet, though, is to try to get to a store round-up, or rodeo,
or whatever they choose to call it in your area - try a bunch of canoes
and kayaks, then try to get close with some of the shop owners so you
can call dibs on trade ins.

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Subject: Anybody Know Anything About Kayaks?

After the plastic boat embroglio I'm almost afraid to post this.

I'm looking for a way to get around on my favorite local rivers
(Current and Jack's Fork, Mo.) by myself.


look into renting a canoe and/or kayak, both sit in touring
kayaks as well as sit on and the pungo someone mentioned. the touring models
have more load storing capabilities i'd imagine. shouldn't cost much and it
will help narrow your choices. then if you want a kayak, many rental places
clear them out in the winter months for the new models. at least that's what
it's like around here.

eric
fresno, ca.

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:02:16 GMT, Charles Crolley
wrote:

After the plastic boat embroglio I'm almost afraid to post this.

I'm looking for a way to get around on my favorite local rivers
(Current and Jack's Fork, Mo.) by myself. I followed the "canoe"
thread, and that led me to believe that a Kayak may be the best choice
for me.

I'm interested in a Kayak I can use to haul me and my gear (fishing
gear, sleeping bag, small tent, and a cooler) to a gravel bar where I
can put up away from the rest of humanity and fish for a couple of
days at a time, dawn to whenever the hell I'm ready to quit.

I don't want to do whitewater, I'm not interested in competitve
rowing. Just transportation to for me and my gear to places where
other people aren't.

So if you've got any insight, I'd appreciate it.
BTW, I'm NOT in the market for a dinghy.


Thanks to everyone for the input. The old ball and chain has decided
she wants a kayak, so I'm going to buy one for her and try it out
before buying for me.

Make sure you get one with adjustable foot rests.

jon

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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:02:16 GMT, Charles Crolley
wrote:

After the plastic boat embroglio I'm almost afraid to post this.

I'm looking for a way to get around on my favorite local rivers
(Current and Jack's Fork, Mo.) by myself. I followed the "canoe"
thread, and that led me to believe that a Kayak may be the best choice
for me.

I'm interested in a Kayak I can use to haul me and my gear (fishing
gear, sleeping bag, small tent, and a cooler) to a gravel bar where I
can put up away from the rest of humanity and fish for a couple of
days at a time, dawn to whenever the hell I'm ready to quit.

I don't want to do whitewater, I'm not interested in competitve
rowing. Just transportation to for me and my gear to places where
other people aren't.

So if you've got any insight, I'd appreciate it.
BTW, I'm NOT in the market for a dinghy.


Thanks to everyone for the input. The old ball and chain has decided
she wants a kayak, so I'm going to buy one for her and try it out
before buying for me.

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
: Charles Crolley wrote:
: After the plastic boat embroglio I'm almost afraid to post this.
:
: I'm looking for a way to get around on my favorite local rivers
: (Current and Jack's Fork, Mo.) by myself. I followed the "canoe"
: thread, and that led me to believe that a Kayak may be the best choice
: for me.
:
: I'm interested in a Kayak I can use to haul me and my gear (fishing
: gear, sleeping bag, small tent, and a cooler) to a gravel bar where I
: can put up away from the rest of humanity and fish for a couple of
: days at a time, dawn to whenever the hell I'm ready to quit.
:
: I don't want to do whitewater, I'm not interested in competitve
: rowing. Just transportation to for me and my gear to places where
: other people aren't.
:
: So if you've got any insight, I'd appreciate it.

: I don't know what part of a canoe thread led you to believe
: a kayak would be the best choice for hauling yourself and
: your camping gear around but that doesn't sound right to me.

: Several folks here prefer kayaks for various reasons but I
: don't think the ability to haul gear and coolers is one of
: them.

: Disclaimer: I'm a canoe guy, own three of them.

Hi;

It'll really depend on how much stuff you want to carry... I've got 3 canoes
and 5 kayaks... with a small canoe like a Old Town Pack or Discovery 119k, you
have a small boat but it can handle a lot of weight and is light enough to
cartop onto a van... on the other hand, you'll get where you want to go a bit
faster in a kayak, and perhaps more comfortable... since in a loaded canoe you
should really kneel, not sit, but in a kayak, your always sitting... so think
about your knees too....

A full size cooler is going to require a recreational 2 seat kayak or a
canoe... you can still use a double bladed kayak paddle in a canoe if
you have a narrower boat and a good sized paddle... In my discovery 119k
I use a 240cm double blade paddle... but a recreational kayak might be
the most comfortable thing you paddle...

--
John Nelson
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