What rod for the reel?

I recently decided to get a Shimano Sustain 2500, and was wondering
which rod to pair with it. I decided to get a 6' 6" / medium / fast or
extra fast rod but don't know what kind to get. Are the most expensive
ones really worth the money? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Tyler

"T" wrote in message
oups.com...
I recently decided to get a Shimano Sustain 2500, and was wondering
which rod to pair with it. I decided to get a 6' 6" / medium / fast or
extra fast rod but don't know what kind to get. Are the most expensive
ones really worth the money? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Tyler


There is a point of diminishing returns on cost per benefit on rods. You
can spend a lot more, but why?

Take a look at the St. Croix Avid and Tournament series of rods. If you
really want to go "Top Shelf", look at their Legend Elite series. I use a
lot of the Tournament and Legend blanks when I build rods. A 6'6" to 7'
extra fast or fast, medium light to medium power is a good match to the
reel.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Steve is biased, since he lives so close to St Croix's plant o ! First set
a limit on what you care to spend, then check out 3-4 different
manufacturers. There are alot of quality rods out there now, and a lot of
real good rod blanks. And that is is where the difference is in a rod today.
And of course how much care was taken when it was assembled.When possible
it is always best to test cast a rod before you get stuck. Hope this helps
some!

--
______________________________
Dave Norton
Custom Trim & Millwork
Millennium Custom Fishing Rods
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"T" wrote in message
oups.com...
I recently decided to get a Shimano Sustain 2500, and was wondering
which rod to pair with it. I decided to get a 6' 6" / medium / fast or
extra fast rod but don't know what kind to get. Are the most expensive
ones really worth the money? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Tyler


There is a point of diminishing returns on cost per benefit on rods. You
can spend a lot more, but why?

Take a look at the St. Croix Avid and Tournament series of rods. If you
really want to go "Top Shelf", look at their Legend Elite series. I use a
lot of the Tournament and Legend blanks when I build rods. A 6'6" to 7'
extra fast or fast, medium light to medium power is a good match to the
reel.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"Dave Norton" wrote in message
...
Steve is biased, since he lives so close to St Croix's plant o ! First
set a limit on what you care to spend, then check out 3-4 different
manufacturers. There are alot of quality rods out there now, and a lot of
real good rod blanks. And that is is where the difference is in a rod
today. And of course how much care was taken when it was assembled.When
possible it is always best to test cast a rod before you get stuck. Hope
this helps some!

Well yeah, I guess I am. It is nice that I can drive to the factory and
handpick the blanks I want. Often times, I thought I wanted one particular
blank, but instead ended up with another. A classic example is a
baitcasting rod I built using a spinning rod blank. It gave me exactly the
action I was looking for.

But Dave's advice is right on. Check out as many different rods as you can
and pick the one you like. All-Pro, Falcon, Loomis and others make good
rods, as does St. Croix! :-) Take the reel with you and see how it
balances out and more importantly, how it casts.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Dave Norton" wrote in message
...
Steve is biased, since he lives so close to St Croix's plant o ! First
set a limit on what you care to spend, then check out 3-4 different
manufacturers. There are alot of quality rods out there now, and a lot of
real good rod blanks. And that is is where the difference is in a rod
today. And of course how much care was taken when it was assembled.When
possible it is always best to test cast a rod before you get stuck. Hope
this helps some!

Well yeah, I guess I am. It is nice that I can drive to the factory and
handpick the blanks I want. Often times, I thought I wanted one
particular blank, but instead ended up with another. A classic example is
a baitcasting rod I built using a spinning rod blank. It gave me exactly
the action I was looking for.

But Dave's advice is right on. Check out as many different rods as you
can and pick the one you like. All-Pro, Falcon, Loomis and others make
good rods, as does St. Croix! :-) Take the reel with you and see how it
balances out and more importantly, how it casts.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank baits,
require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

"Calif Bill" wrote in messageSNIP

Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank baits,
require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

Not really. I've caught an awful lot of fish on crankbaits fished from an
extra-fast or fast rod. There are advantages to using a moderate action
rod, but it's not really a requirement. Actually, I prefer to use faster,
and more sensitive rods when I'm fishing crankbaits. I can tell if the lure
is working properly, if it's hitting bottom like it's supposed to (if I'm
fishing a deep diver) and I get better hooksets.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Calif Bill" wrote in messageSNIP

Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank
baits, require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

Not really. I've caught an awful lot of fish on crankbaits fished from an
extra-fast or fast rod. There are advantages to using a moderate action
rod, but it's not really a requirement. Actually, I prefer to use faster,
and more sensitive rods when I'm fishing crankbaits. I can tell if the
lure is working properly, if it's hitting bottom like it's supposed to (if
I'm fishing a deep diver) and I get better hooksets.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Yu can have a slower action sensitive rod also. Speed is not sensitivity.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Calif Bill" wrote in messageSNIP

Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank
baits, require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

Not really. I've caught an awful lot of fish on crankbaits fished from
an extra-fast or fast rod. There are advantages to using a moderate
action rod, but it's not really a requirement. Actually, I prefer to use
faster, and more sensitive rods when I'm fishing crankbaits. I can tell
if the lure is working properly, if it's hitting bottom like it's
supposed to (if I'm fishing a deep diver) and I get better hooksets.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Yu can have a slower action sensitive rod also. Speed is not sensitivity.

This is true, but many of the moderate action rods with a more parabolic
bend seem less sensitive to me. At least that's been true of the ones I've
used and handled over the years. And I freely admit, I prefer the way a
fast or extra fast action rod feels.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Bill, not to cast dispersions on anything you said ,but this is a topic that
Steve and I are certainly on the same page.

I might "suggest" a softer action rod to someone with less experience. But I
certainly perfer a faster "action" blank. I might give up a bit as far as
"power" is concerned . But I want to "feel" what that lure is doing. You
just don't get that in a 44 million modulus blank.JMHO!

--
______________________________
Dave Norton
Custom Trim & Millwork
Millennium Custom Fishing Rods
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Calif Bill" wrote in messageSNIP

Also depends what you are throwing with the rod. Treble hook Crank
baits, require a different speed rod than a worm rod.

Not really. I've caught an awful lot of fish on crankbaits fished from
an extra-fast or fast rod. There are advantages to using a moderate
action rod, but it's not really a requirement. Actually, I prefer to
use faster, and more sensitive rods when I'm fishing crankbaits. I can
tell if the lure is working properly, if it's hitting bottom like it's
supposed to (if I'm fishing a deep diver) and I get better hooksets.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


Yu can have a slower action sensitive rod also. Speed is not
sensitivity.

This is true, but many of the moderate action rods with a more parabolic
bend seem less sensitive to me. At least that's been true of the ones
I've used and handled over the years. And I freely admit, I prefer the
way a fast or extra fast action rod feels.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

T wrote:

I recently decided to get a Shimano Sustain 2500, and was wondering
which rod to pair with it. I decided to get a 6' 6" / medium / fast or
extra fast rod but don't know what kind to get. Are the most expensive
ones really worth the money? Any recommendations?
Thanks,
Tyler

T,

I have been really happy with the Fenwick Venture rods I have gotten at
Wal-Mart. No, they aren't the most expensive rods out there at $50, but
they fish really well. I have both spinning and casting versions, 6'6"
and 7' spinning and a 6'6" casting that has a real soft tip...I use it
for cranking. I use the spinning rods for soft plastics.

BD