feathers and tying flys with them

newbe question number one , I have a snow goose just shoot this
spring and would like to ty some flys with it the feathers i am green
as can be can any one help- point me in a direction I not sure which
feathers to keep or what kind of flys are possible to ty with them

"edventures" wrote in message
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newbe question number one , I have a snow goose just shoot this
spring and would like to ty some flys with it the feathers i am green
as can be can any one help- point me in a direction I not sure which
feathers to keep or what kind of flys are possible to ty with them

Eric Leiser's 1973 book Fly Tying Materials has generall
advice about handling and storage of feathers. Goose is
seldom used and white is of all colours the least used.
You can dye goose quill material various colours to use
where traditional formulae called for swan or condor.
No special use has yet been suggested for goose
down and the like (but no one had heard of cul de canard
20 years ago.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

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"Don Phillipson" wrote:

"edventures" wrote in message
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newbe question number one , I have a snow goose just shoot this
spring and would like to ty some flys with it the feathers i am green
as can be can any one help- point me in a direction I not sure which
feathers to keep or what kind of flys are possible to ty with them

Goose is
seldom used and white is of all colours the least used.


WTF are you thinking? What are the top 10 flies for trout? I bet the
prince nymph is one. Its main components are brown goose biots and
white goose biots.

"Richard Herr Harder" wrote in message
...

WTF are you thinking? What are the top 10 flies for trout? I bet the
prince nymph is one. Its main components are brown goose biots and
white goose biots.

Hmm....top ten trout flies. Hard to enumerate, since there are several
versions of upwing drys that might qualify separately. Nontheless, my
thoughts, close to being in order, for the top 10 fish-catchers worldwide
a

Wolly bugger
GRHE
EHC
PT
Wolly worm
Adams
Parachute
Muddler minnow
Copper John
Some type of ant

Prince nymph is down around #15 or 20, in my book.

--riverman

riverman wrote:
"Richard Herr Harder" wrote in message
...

WTF are you thinking? What are the top 10 flies for trout? I bet the
prince nymph is one. Its main components are brown goose biots and
white goose biots.


Hmm....top ten trout flies. Hard to enumerate, since there are several
versions of upwing drys that might qualify separately. Nontheless, my
thoughts, close to being in order, for the top 10 fish-catchers worldwide
a

Wolly bugger
GRHE
EHC
PT
Wolly worm
Adams
Parachute
Muddler minnow
Copper John
Some type of ant

Prince nymph is down around #15 or 20, in my book.

The Copper John uses goose biots as well. I believe that it is now, or
recently was, Umpqua's #1 selling fly.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"rw" wrote in message
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riverman wrote:
"Richard Herr Harder" wrote in message
...

WTF are you thinking? What are the top 10 flies for trout? I bet the
prince nymph is one. Its main components are brown goose biots and
white goose biots.


Hmm....top ten trout flies. Hard to enumerate, since there are several
versions of upwing drys that might qualify separately. Nontheless, my
thoughts, close to being in order, for the top 10 fish-catchers worldwide
a

Wolly bugger
GRHE
EHC
PT
Wolly worm
Adams
Parachute
Muddler minnow
Copper John
Some type of ant

Prince nymph is down around #15 or 20, in my book.

The Copper John uses goose biots as well. I believe that it is now, or
recently was, Umpqua's #1 selling fly.


Most I've seen look more like this:
http://www.danica.com/FLYTIER/jwoola...opper_john.htm

but I don't doubt that the original had biots.

--riverman

"rw" wrote


The Copper John uses goose biots as well. I believe that it is now, or
recently was, Umpqua's #1 selling fly.



A small CJ with bright red goose biot tails is, in my limited experience (
10-12 days there), a great fly for the Big Lost

"riverman" wrote in message ...

"Richard Herr Harder" wrote in message
...

WTF are you thinking? What are the top 10 flies for trout? I bet the
prince nymph is one. Its main components are brown goose biots and
white goose biots.

Hmm....top ten trout flies. Hard to enumerate, since there are several
versions of upwing drys that might qualify separately. Nontheless, my
thoughts, close to being in order, for the top 10 fish-catchers worldwide
a

Wolly bugger
GRHE
EHC
PT
Wolly worm
Adams
Parachute
Muddler minnow
Copper John
Some type of ant

Prince nymph is down around #15 or 20, in my book.

--riverman




Regardless of top ten, I have seen goose biots in a bunch of recipes. Alot
of the master tiers say that the hook is like a canvas to an artist. With a
little experimenting and fiddling around I bet you could come up with some
original patterns out of most any feathers that would grab a fish of some
sort.

The old Down-easters here in Maine used to catch Mackerel on (about)size one
hooks with a bit of red flannel wrapped around. (of course Mackerel aren't
known to be finicky)

But speaking of top ten....
If you had to stock a fly shop with the most common pattern and size for you
customers in the northeast... would you pick that list? and if so.. what
sizes do you prefer or think would be most common?

I am by no means a fly fishing pro. but have made it quite an addiction over
the past 4 or 5 years. and even a second income over the past few months.
I find myself struggling to keep the right flies in the shop. I haven't sold
enough directly from the shop to make a good guess at what most folks want.
My internet orders come from all over so the most common web orders don't
tell me what the top ten for Maine would be..

I have stocked up on some buggers, adams, hendrickson, hares ear nymph,
muddlers. Thats about the only matches I have to your list.

I'm still guessing when I head to the river to fish myself. I look around
and try to match whats out there with what I have in my pocket. I try to
note the weather and season when I see a hatch.

I have read a bunch of posts here and would appreciate some inputs on what
you folks expect to see when you head to the local fly shop.
Not just flies but tying materials too.
I am learning.. the hard and expensive way, that what I think is good and
what I want to buy, isn't what my customers are necessarily looking for.


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Richard Herr Harder wrote in news:rhh-2D84E0.22203703042006
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"Don Phillipson" wrote:

"edventures" wrote in message
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newbe question number one , I have a snow goose just shoot this
spring and would like to ty some flys with it the feathers i am green
as can be can any one help- point me in a direction I not sure which
feathers to keep or what kind of flys are possible to ty with them

Goose is
seldom used and white is of all colours the least used.


WTF are you thinking? What are the top 10 flies for trout? I bet the
prince nymph is one. Its main components are brown goose biots and
white goose biots.


So, you found a use for the trailing edge of the primaries, two of which
should give him nearly a lifetime supply of biots.

Now, what does he do with the rest of the goose?
--
Scott
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Now, what does he do with the rest of the goose?
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:-)

Dan