A knot inside fly line?

Greetings,
I had a Salmon/Steelhead fly line put on by 10wt reel by Orvis on Wednesday
and when I cast it yesterday, I noticed there is a knot under the coating
about 35' in from the tip of the line. I could feel a lump under the
coating when I use my line hand. At first I thought it was just the
coating, but the coating looks fine. I pulled on the line a bit to try to
stretch it out, but no luck. Would this be a defected line? It bothers me
in a sense that it's right where my line hand touches.
Advice? take it back to Orvis?
-tom

Tom Nakashima wrote:
Greetings,
I had a Salmon/Steelhead fly line put on by 10wt reel by Orvis on Wednesday
and when I cast it yesterday, I noticed there is a knot under the coating
about 35' in from the tip of the line. I could feel a lump under the
coating when I use my line hand. At first I thought it was just the
coating, but the coating looks fine. I pulled on the line a bit to try to
stretch it out, but no luck. Would this be a defected line? It bothers me
in a sense that it's right where my line hand touches.
Advice? take it back to Orvis?
-tom

Since the "weight" of a fly line corresponds to optimal loading of a rod
of similar "weight" with 30 ft of the line out, Orvis has introduced
this marker to let you know when in fact you have enough line out to
load the rod properly.
















No, just kidding. Send it back.

"JR" wrote in message ...
Tom Nakashima wrote:
Greetings,
I had a Salmon/Steelhead fly line put on by 10wt reel by Orvis on
Wednesday and when I cast it yesterday, I noticed there is a knot under
the coating about 35' in from the tip of the line. I could feel a lump
under the coating when I use my line hand. At first I thought it was
just the coating, but the coating looks fine. I pulled on the line a bit
to try to stretch it out, but no luck. Would this be a defected line?
It bothers me in a sense that it's right where my line hand touches.
Advice? take it back to Orvis?
-tom

Since the "weight" of a fly line corresponds to optimal loading of a rod
of similar "weight" with 30 ft of the line out, Orvis has introduced
this marker to let you know when in fact you have enough line out to
load the rod properly.

No, just kidding. Send it back.


I'm laughing, you almost got me JR, damn glad you're not a sushi chef!
-tom

"JR" wrote in message ...
Tom Nakashima wrote:
Greetings,
I had a Salmon/Steelhead fly line put on by 10wt reel by Orvis on
Wednesday and when I cast it yesterday, I noticed there is a knot under
the coating about 35' in from the tip of the line. I could feel a lump
under the coating when I use my line hand. At first I thought it was
just the coating, but the coating looks fine. I pulled on the line a bit
to try to stretch it out, but no luck. Would this be a defected line?
It bothers me in a sense that it's right where my line hand touches.
Advice? take it back to Orvis?
-tom

Since the "weight" of a fly line corresponds to optimal loading of a rod
of similar "weight" with 30 ft of the line out, Orvis has introduced
this marker to let you know when in fact you have enough line out to
load the rod properly.

No, just kidding. Send it back.

JR,
That may in fact be the case. I once had a WF (Cortland IIRC) that had a
distinct bump at the end of the WF section (more noticeable than just the
change to a straight taper). The literature that came with the line made
mention of this feature.

Bob Weinberger

BTW the"O" is running @10,400CFS!!! - was 200CFS when you & I last fished
it.

Bob Weinberger wrote:
"JR" wrote in message ...

Since the "weight" of a fly line corresponds to optimal loading of a rod
of similar "weight" with 30 ft of the line out, Orvis has introduced
this marker to let you know when in fact you have enough line out to
load the rod properly.

No, just kidding. Send it back.

JR,
That may in fact be the case. I once had a WF (Cortland IIRC) that had a
distinct bump at the end of the WF section (more noticeable than just the
change to a straight taper). The literature that came with the line made
mention of this feature.

Bob Weinberger

BTW the"O" is running @10,400CFS!!! - was 200CFS when you & I last fished
it.

Well, Tom, now I don't know what to tell you. I was just trying to be
cute, but....... maybe you should call Orvis first.

Bob, sure would make for a different sort of fishing on the O! I have
been fishing mostly the Met this winter because the folks at Bowman Dam
have been raising and lowering the level of the Crooked so frequently I
haven't wanted to drive over there only to be surprised. We should
think about getting together on the lower D sometime in June/July if you
can.

"Bob Weinberger" wrote

That may in fact be the case. I once had a WF (Cortland IIRC) that had a
distinct bump at the end of the WF section (more noticeable than just the
change to a straight taper). The literature that came with the line made
mention of this feature.



I had the impression it might be true too .... I've marked my own lines for
the purpose of repeatedly shooting the same weight and found it useful in
Striper/ long casts situations ... it seems easier to build and maintain a
timing if the exact same amount of head is in the air each time .... YMMV

Oh, the fact that Tom says, "It bothers me
in a sense that it's right where my line hand touches." adds credence if
you mean that you have your hand on the bump each time you feel the line is
balanced and ready to haul and shoot, Tom

"JR" wrote in message ...
Bob Weinberger wrote:
"JR" wrote in message
...

Since the "weight" of a fly line corresponds to optimal loading of a rod
of similar "weight" with 30 ft of the line out, Orvis has introduced
this marker to let you know when in fact you have enough line out to
load the rod properly.

No, just kidding. Send it back.

JR,
That may in fact be the case. I once had a WF (Cortland IIRC) that had a
distinct bump at the end of the WF section (more noticeable than just the
change to a straight taper). The literature that came with the line made
mention of this feature.


Bob Weinberger

BTW the"O" is running @10,400CFS!!! - was 200CFS when you & I last
fished it.

Well, Tom, now I don't know what to tell you. I was just trying to be
cute, but....... maybe you should call Orvis first.


Yes I called Orvis. One thing good about Orvis, first and foremost is
customer satisfaction. They told me the knot in the line is not suppose to
be there, and for me not take a chance and bring the line back.
-tom

"Larry" wrote in message
...

"Bob Weinberger" wrote

That may in fact be the case. I once had a WF (Cortland IIRC) that had a
distinct bump at the end of the WF section (more noticeable than just the
change to a straight taper). The literature that came with the line made
mention of this feature.



I had the impression it might be true too .... I've marked my own lines
for the purpose of repeatedly shooting the same weight and found it useful
in Striper/ long casts situations ... it seems easier to build and
maintain a timing if the exact same amount of head is in the air each time
.... YMMV

Oh, the fact that Tom says, "It bothers me
in a sense that it's right where my line hand touches." adds credence if
you mean that you have your hand on the bump each time you feel the line
is balanced and ready to haul and shoot, Tom



Orvis said the knot is not suppose to be there, and I would hate to find out
on the Alaskan river the hard way, it's probably best to correct the problem
now.
I actually don't have a problem single, or double hauling at any length when
shooting line, or even roll casting. But I know Teeny makes their lines
color coded for that reason. Fishing conditions change all the time, whether
you're adding weight, using different flies, adding sink tips, wind
conditions, current conditions, depths, background bushes and trees, all
alters one's cast. The best thing is to practice these casting techniques
and be ready for any type of fishing situations to make adjustments. On a
calm lake I can see that marked line come in handy, but on a river when are
the conditions ever perfect?
-tom

"Tom Nakashima" wrote

Orvis said the knot is not suppose to be there, and I would hate to find
out on the Alaskan river the hard way, it's probably best to correct the
problem now.

Absolutely



On a
calm lake I can see that marked line come in handy, but on a river when
are the conditions ever perfect?
-


I've only used the markers fishing stillwater, which reinforces your point

"JR" wrote in message ...
snip

We should think about getting together on the lower D sometime in
June/July if you can.

Sounds good. I'll start watching the counts about mid-June ( 200/day is
the trigger) & we'll set up a date.

Bob Weinberger