Flippin'

How many of you really flip?

Flippin' was described to me as a very short line presentation to quickly
place a bait with little splash, and then move on. As Dee Thomas
demonstrated it in his video its almost a power fishing technique.

What I see a lot of people calling flipping, looks more to me like tulie
dipping (reaching over cover and dipping the bait in the water) or pitching
(sitting back from the target and using a pendulum start and rod loading to
snap the bait towards the target).

I tend to pitch. I very little confidence in catching fish with the boat
practically sitting on top of them so I back off and pitch to them. Even in
heavy cover I'll try to pitch through the tiniest of openings, and I'll only
move up if I just can't penetrate the cover any other way or if I am off
that day and just can't hit the openings.


--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com

Bob,

I have to agree with you, I just do not feel very comfortable sitting
over the top of those fish trying to catch them, even though I have seen
it work, and tournaments won using it. I am getting to a point where I
can set a 1/2 ounce jig in the water pretty gently probably 65 to 70% of
the time pitching, still probably not nearly as gentle as Flipping, but
it is definitely a confidence thing for me.

I have tried it, but never really got comfortable doing it.

Chris
Bob La Londe wrote:
How many of you really flip?

Flippin' was described to me as a very short line presentation to quickly
place a bait with little splash, and then move on. As Dee Thomas
demonstrated it in his video its almost a power fishing technique.

What I see a lot of people calling flipping, looks more to me like tulie
dipping (reaching over cover and dipping the bait in the water) or pitching
(sitting back from the target and using a pendulum start and rod loading to
snap the bait towards the target).

I tend to pitch. I very little confidence in catching fish with the boat
practically sitting on top of them so I back off and pitch to them. Even in
heavy cover I'll try to pitch through the tiniest of openings, and I'll only
move up if I just can't penetrate the cover any other way or if I am off
that day and just can't hit the openings.

Bob La Londe wrote:
How many of you really flip?


I do flip -- especially when fishing wood cover in fairly heavy current,
and in matted vegetation. But I pitch more than I flip, and usually do
both with the same rod, alternating technique to put the lure in the
next target.

On Thu, 4 May 2006 10:58:30 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

How many of you really flip?

Flippin' was described to me as a very short line presentation to quickly
place a bait with little splash, and then move on. As Dee Thomas
demonstrated it in his video its almost a power fishing technique.

What I see a lot of people calling flipping, looks more to me like tulie
dipping (reaching over cover and dipping the bait in the water) or pitching
(sitting back from the target and using a pendulum start and rod loading to
snap the bait towards the target).

I tend to pitch. I very little confidence in catching fish with the boat
practically sitting on top of them so I back off and pitch to them. Even in
heavy cover I'll try to pitch through the tiniest of openings, and I'll only
move up if I just can't penetrate the cover any other way or if I am off
that day and just can't hit the openings.

IMO, whether you flip, pitch or cast and to what lengths you do
so...all comes down to several factors:

1. Cast and retrieve efficiency - Flipping is generally more
efficient bc you have a shorter cast and retrieve. Bc shorter casts
and retrieves are more efficient, your goal should be to make as short
of a cast and retrieve as conditions allow.

2. Presentation - If a suspended or persistent "knock on wood"
presentation is needed, then you better be in more of a flipping mode.
If the fish are hitting on the drop or on the bottom, then pitching or
casting might be more efficient.

3. How spooky are the fish - sometimes you can sit right on top
of a fish and it won't bother em' at all. Other times, they get
spooky if you are 40 feet away from em'... Obviously, water clarity
and sky/weather conditions really come into play here.

From what I see, it appears that most people flip, pitch or cast
(and the degrees that they do so) based on their own comfort level
rather than the above 3 factors. Nowadays, the biggest mistake I see
is probably pitching as it seems like many people like to pitch from
too far out and they just aren't being as efficient as they could be.
Sometimes the most efficent distance is somewhere between where many
people flip and pitch. Oftentimes, when working specific cover, I'll
use my flipping stick and use something like a flip/pitch to cover
water from 10' to 35' out. It's a technique that is very similar to
how many fly fishermen fish. Hold rod in your right hand and gather
line with your left. Pitch the lure to target feathering the line
thru your left fingers stopping it when you come to your target. (ie.
target = 2 feet behind left side of stump).

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Indianapolis, IN
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I'm with Bob on this one. I use the same rod for both techniques.

I flip into shoreline brush when it's 1/2 submerged. I have taken some nice
quality bass flipping. I pitch mostly, but some targets call for a good
flip. especially when you need that really quiet presentation.

My rule is anything closer than 15' is an opportunity for flipping.

Dave V

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
How many of you really flip?


I do flip -- especially when fishing wood cover in fairly heavy current,
and in matted vegetation. But I pitch more than I flip, and usually do
both with the same rod, alternating technique to put the lure in the next
target.

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Bob,

I have to agree with you, I just do not feel very comfortable sitting over
the top of those fish trying to catch them, even though I have seen it
work, and tournaments won using it. I am getting to a point where I can
set a 1/2 ounce jig in the water pretty gently probably 65 to 70% of the
time pitching, still probably not nearly as gentle as Flipping, but it is
definitely a confidence thing for me.

I have tried it, but never really got comfortable doing it.

Chris
Bob La Londe wrote:
How many of you really flip?

Flippin' was described to me as a very short line presentation to quickly
place a bait with little splash, and then move on. As Dee Thomas
demonstrated it in his video its almost a power fishing technique.

What I see a lot of people calling flipping, looks more to me like tulie
dipping (reaching over cover and dipping the bait in the water) or
pitching
(sitting back from the target and using a pendulum start and rod loading
to
snap the bait towards the target).

I tend to pitch. I very little confidence in catching fish with the boat
practically sitting on top of them so I back off and pitch to them. Even
in
heavy cover I'll try to pitch through the tiniest of openings, and I'll
only
move up if I just can't penetrate the cover any other way or if I am off
that day and just can't hit the openings.

Flippin is a version of "tule dipp'n". Dee started fishing on Clear Lake,
and Senior Moment so can not remember the name of the guy who started tule
dipp'n (Clude something). Dee one a couple of tournys with tule dipp'n in
the early days and they banned the long rods. So to get the same effect he
came up with flipp'n. I can remember the guys on Clear Lake (I learned to
water ski there) out fishing the tules (cattails to other parts of the
country) with these 10-12' cane poles and a rubber spider on an about 6-8'
line.