Bass that suck

I just got back from a California fishing trip,, some trip,, 5 days and
only 6 hours of actual fishing, Most of the rest was fishing industry
marketing meetings.

Anyway, When I was fishing, I found out that California bass Suck, they
don't strike. At first I thought it was bream or trout, sucking on my lures.

I was fishing with a tournament fisherman that fished this lake often
(Paris Lake), and a visiting professional (they flew out there) bass
fishermen, who like me, had never fished this lake. They put me in the
back, and they shared the front of the boat (I was back seated like
never before :-), On the first bites,, if you call them that, I kept
waiting for the bass to swim off with the lure, tug hard , hell anything
except that little bit of pressure I felt, I kept saying come on, go
ahead and take it, but they never did,, the guys in the front would
finally yell at me to set the hook, I would laugh at them,, but what the
heck, I gave a good yank, and how about that ,, that is a bass. All day
long these guys would take the lure, and just hold it for a second or
two, well sometimes for 30 seconds,, they would not pull, they just
would sit there holding the lure in their mouth, I just could not get it
into my mind to set the hook when I felt resistance,, I missed over 30
sucks that day,, I did manage to boat as many bass as them combined, and
mine were bigger, but the bite was the strangest I have ever felt,
sometimes I would set the hook, and the bass just followed my retrieval
to the boat, with out me even knowing they where hooked, until they saw
me, then all hell broke loose.

The guy that fished this lake often,, said this is how they strike soft
plastics, he was drop shotting, I was wiggling, and the other pro was
carolina fishing. (who only caught one fish)

This is an extremely high presure lake, on the weekends, they will
actually turn boaters away because the lake has too many boats on it,
their possession limit is only two bass per person. The biggest I boated
was around 3 and 1/2 lbs, most were in the two pound class.

You west coast guys,, is it normal for those bass to suck, instead of
strike :-),, or was this guy telling me a fib, and this was just a slow
fishing day ? Oh yeah , we started fishing at 11 AM , and fished to 5
PM, the fish were in 20 to 30 feet of water,

I did "steal" a fish from my front seaters, they were watching the
flasher and said there was a fish right under the trolling motor, I
flipped "under" their lines letting my weight and lure drop right next
to the trolling motor, 20 sec. later, I said, there is not one there
now, as I was un hooking it :-)

WE did have a ball, with a lot of joking going on through out the day,
it would have made a great fishing show
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Sounds like it wasn't the bass that were sucking, you never had fish just
suck in a lure and hold it? You have got to be kidding me!!! Any pressure I
feel I set the hook, I get all those sucky bass right up
"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
I just got back from a California fishing trip,, some trip,, 5 days and
only 6 hours of actual fishing, Most of the rest was fishing industry
marketing meetings.

Anyway, When I was fishing, I found out that California bass Suck, they
don't strike. At first I thought it was bream or trout, sucking on my
lures.

I was fishing with a tournament fisherman that fished this lake often
(Paris Lake), and a visiting professional (they flew out there) bass
fishermen, who like me, had never fished this lake. They put me in the
back, and they shared the front of the boat (I was back seated like
never before :-), On the first bites,, if you call them that, I kept
waiting for the bass to swim off with the lure, tug hard , hell anything
except that little bit of pressure I felt, I kept saying come on, go
ahead and take it, but they never did,, the guys in the front would
finally yell at me to set the hook, I would laugh at them,, but what the
heck, I gave a good yank, and how about that ,, that is a bass. All day
long these guys would take the lure, and just hold it for a second or
two, well sometimes for 30 seconds,, they would not pull, they just
would sit there holding the lure in their mouth, I just could not get it
into my mind to set the hook when I felt resistance,, I missed over 30
sucks that day,, I did manage to boat as many bass as them combined, and
mine were bigger, but the bite was the strangest I have ever felt,
sometimes I would set the hook, and the bass just followed my retrieval
to the boat, with out me even knowing they where hooked, until they saw
me, then all hell broke loose.

The guy that fished this lake often,, said this is how they strike soft
plastics, he was drop shotting, I was wiggling, and the other pro was
carolina fishing. (who only caught one fish)

This is an extremely high presure lake, on the weekends, they will
actually turn boaters away because the lake has too many boats on it,
their possession limit is only two bass per person. The biggest I boated
was around 3 and 1/2 lbs, most were in the two pound class.

You west coast guys,, is it normal for those bass to suck, instead of
strike :-),, or was this guy telling me a fib, and this was just a slow
fishing day ? Oh yeah , we started fishing at 11 AM , and fished to 5
PM, the fish were in 20 to 30 feet of water,

I did "steal" a fish from my front seaters, they were watching the
flasher and said there was a fish right under the trolling motor, I
flipped "under" their lines letting my weight and lure drop right next
to the trolling motor, 20 sec. later, I said, there is not one there
now, as I was un hooking it :-)

WE did have a ball, with a lot of joking going on through out the day,
it would have made a great fishing show
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
I just got back from a California fishing trip,, some trip,, 5 days and
only 6 hours of actual fishing, Most of the rest was fishing industry
marketing meetings.

Anyway, When I was fishing, I found out that California bass Suck, they
don't strike. At first I thought it was bream or trout, sucking on my
lures.

I was fishing with a tournament fisherman that fished this lake often
(Paris Lake), and a visiting professional (they flew out there) bass
fishermen, who like me, had never fished this lake. They put me in the
back, and they shared the front of the boat (I was back seated like
never before :-), On the first bites,, if you call them that, I kept
waiting for the bass to swim off with the lure, tug hard , hell anything
except that little bit of pressure I felt, I kept saying come on, go
ahead and take it, but they never did,, the guys in the front would
finally yell at me to set the hook, I would laugh at them,, but what the
heck, I gave a good yank, and how about that ,, that is a bass. All day
long these guys would take the lure, and just hold it for a second or
two, well sometimes for 30 seconds,, they would not pull, they just
would sit there holding the lure in their mouth, I just could not get it
into my mind to set the hook when I felt resistance,, I missed over 30
sucks that day,, I did manage to boat as many bass as them combined, and
mine were bigger, but the bite was the strangest I have ever felt,
sometimes I would set the hook, and the bass just followed my retrieval
to the boat, with out me even knowing they where hooked, until they saw
me, then all hell broke loose.

The guy that fished this lake often,, said this is how they strike soft
plastics, he was drop shotting, I was wiggling, and the other pro was
carolina fishing. (who only caught one fish)

This is an extremely high presure lake, on the weekends, they will
actually turn boaters away because the lake has too many boats on it,
their possession limit is only two bass per person. The biggest I boated
was around 3 and 1/2 lbs, most were in the two pound class.

You west coast guys,, is it normal for those bass to suck, instead of
strike :-),, or was this guy telling me a fib, and this was just a slow
fishing day ? Oh yeah , we started fishing at 11 AM , and fished to 5
PM, the fish were in 20 to 30 feet of water,

I did "steal" a fish from my front seaters, they were watching the
flasher and said there was a fish right under the trolling motor, I
flipped "under" their lines letting my weight and lure drop right next
to the trolling motor, 20 sec. later, I said, there is not one there
now, as I was un hooking it :-)

WE did have a ball, with a lot of joking going on through out the day,
it would have made a great fishing show
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


I fish the Colorado River a lot so our bass are only half Californian. I
guess that would explain why this only happens with about half my strikes.
I would say that I get a variety of strikes. I've had small bass tap a lure
several times like a bluegill. Bigger ones usually suck it down and sit
there or just move back into the area they came out of to strike the lure.
A lot of times fishing a stick worm I'll have fish suck it in and sit there.
In clear water I have watched 1.5-2.5 lb bass come out of a weedline and
suck down a worm then just sit there. On those, when I see the gills flare
I'll crank down my slack and set the hook hard.

I fish slack line a lot so I see more strikes based on line movement or
stoppage of line movement than I feel, but I have to agree our half
Californian bass suck it down and just sit there about half the time.

Even thowing spinner baits and crank baits, I have caught fish and the only
reason I knew I had one on was because it felt a little heavier than just
having a weedball on the hooks.

I think it may have to do with the way you are fishing than anything else.
I have this happen a lot when flipping to the edge of pencil tulies. I
think the bass is just sitting in the edge of the weeds, and he comes out
just enough to suck down an easy meal.

I do have a hard time getting the hookset right when I get that heavy feel.
Since I am a line watcher, and fish slack line a lot I usually get that when
cranking up my slack line before moving the bait to another spot. My
instinct is to drop the rod, crank down on it then set the hook. By then
the fish has spit out the bait almost every time. If I get that heavy
feeling with the rod fairly low sometimes I can overcome my instinct and
just set the hook. I quite often get a fish on then, but it is difficult to
get a solidd hookset because you never feel it when the rod is in the ideal
position for a positive hookest. By switch to almost exclusively
medium/heavy and heavy fast action rods I have improved this, but I can see
why a lot of guys will often go for a second hookset.

Next time you are out this way why don't you stop by and show me how you
were nailing those soft biters.

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"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
I just got back from a California fishing trip,, some trip,, 5 days and
only 6 hours of actual fishing, Most of the rest was fishing industry
marketing meetings.

Anyway, When I was fishing, I found out that California bass Suck, they
don't strike. At first I thought it was bream or trout, sucking on my
lures.
SNIP

I always tell my clients to set the hook anytime they feel anything
different. Sometimes it's a weed or a snag, but many times it's a fish.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Bob La Londe wrote:



Next time you are out this way why don't you stop by and show me how you
were nailing those soft biters.

7 out of 37 is hardly nailing them :-)

I need someone else to show me how to nail them

Larry might have missed two strikes,, he just did get get the sucks I
was getting.

Thinking about it,, I think these fish were like a toddler, sucking his
binky, I think if it had not been for the "Mega Strike" I was using on
the lures,, I would not have caught a single fish


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Reminds me of Florida... never felt a single fish. Ok... maybe I felt a few,
but other than that, it was pure instinct.


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Sounds like it wasn't the bass that were sucking, you never had fish just
suck in a lure and hold it? You have got to be kidding me!!! Any pressure
I
feel I set the hook, I get all those sucky bass right up

alwaysfishking wrote:

Sounds like it wasn't the bass that were sucking, you never had fish just
suck in a lure and hold it? You have got to be kidding me!!! Any pressure I
feel I set the hook, I get all those sucky bass right up

Actually No, I never have, at least not that I knew, I have had blue
gills (that I could see, grab my worms), and I always thought this
feeling was just that, when I could not see them,, I now guess I have
been missing a lot of bass.

I usually fish this rig with a circle hook, I just let them swim off and
they set the hook. When I Carolina rigged, I would always gave them
slack and let them swim off as well before setting the hook.

I learned a lot from all this.

I think one of the biggest problems with me in this is all the tub
fishing I have done, where you need the bass to hold the bait to get the
crowd excited, since we never use hooks in those demos. It's a mental
thing with me I guess,, I need to do more actual fishing instead of just
testing, as I don't use hooks anytime I am doing underwater filming
either. I don't do any serious fishing, like tournaments either.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Charles Summers wrote:

Reminds me of Florida... never felt a single fish. Ok... maybe I felt a few,
but other than that, it was pure instinct.


I have to admit, this was the first real high pressure waters I have
fished, it would take a lot of time on the water in places like that to
make it instink

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

What do you expect from a "left" coast fish? Liberals suck! :-)

Jeff


"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
I just got back from a California fishing trip,, some trip,, 5 days and
only 6 hours of actual fishing, Most of the rest was fishing industry
marketing meetings.

Anyway, When I was fishing, I found out that California bass Suck, they
don't strike. At first I thought it was bream or trout, sucking on my
lures.

I was fishing with a tournament fisherman that fished this lake often
(Paris Lake), and a visiting professional (they flew out there) bass
fishermen, who like me, had never fished this lake. They put me in the
back, and they shared the front of the boat (I was back seated like
never before :-), On the first bites,, if you call them that, I kept
waiting for the bass to swim off with the lure, tug hard , hell anything
except that little bit of pressure I felt, I kept saying come on, go
ahead and take it, but they never did,, the guys in the front would
finally yell at me to set the hook, I would laugh at them,, but what the
heck, I gave a good yank, and how about that ,, that is a bass. All day
long these guys would take the lure, and just hold it for a second or
two, well sometimes for 30 seconds,, they would not pull, they just
would sit there holding the lure in their mouth, I just could not get it
into my mind to set the hook when I felt resistance,, I missed over 30
sucks that day,, I did manage to boat as many bass as them combined, and
mine were bigger, but the bite was the strangest I have ever felt,
sometimes I would set the hook, and the bass just followed my retrieval
to the boat, with out me even knowing they where hooked, until they saw
me, then all hell broke loose.

The guy that fished this lake often,, said this is how they strike soft
plastics, he was drop shotting, I was wiggling, and the other pro was
carolina fishing. (who only caught one fish)

This is an extremely high presure lake, on the weekends, they will
actually turn boaters away because the lake has too many boats on it,
their possession limit is only two bass per person. The biggest I boated
was around 3 and 1/2 lbs, most were in the two pound class.

You west coast guys,, is it normal for those bass to suck, instead of
strike :-),, or was this guy telling me a fib, and this was just a slow
fishing day ? Oh yeah , we started fishing at 11 AM , and fished to 5
PM, the fish were in 20 to 30 feet of water,

I did "steal" a fish from my front seaters, they were watching the
flasher and said there was a fish right under the trolling motor, I
flipped "under" their lines letting my weight and lure drop right next
to the trolling motor, 20 sec. later, I said, there is not one there
now, as I was un hooking it :-)

WE did have a ball, with a lot of joking going on through out the day,
it would have made a great fishing show
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

I was always told hook sets are free, being as I never really get the amount
of hooksets I need each year, I take as many as I can get
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
I just got back from a California fishing trip,, some trip,, 5 days and
only 6 hours of actual fishing, Most of the rest was fishing industry
marketing meetings.

Anyway, When I was fishing, I found out that California bass Suck, they
don't strike. At first I thought it was bream or trout, sucking on my
lures.
SNIP

I always tell my clients to set the hook anytime they feel anything
different. Sometimes it's a weed or a snag, but many times it's a fish.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com