Which fly for this situation?

Next week I'll be at a large Adirondack lake. At one particular spot, a
stream dumps over a 50' ledge into this lake, so there's perhaps an acre of
water that's cooler than the surrounding area, and I've caught the
occasional rainbow there using Mepps spinners or similar things. This year,
I'd like to try the spot with a fly rod. The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've never
been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good starting point for
experimenting in a spot like this?

I'd prefer something that is 100% resistant to wind knots.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
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The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've
never been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good
starting point for experimenting in a spot like this?



Wooly Bugger.


--
Scott
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:05:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Next week I'll be at a large Adirondack lake. At one particular spot, a
stream dumps over a 50' ledge into this lake, so there's perhaps an acre of
water that's cooler than the surrounding area, and I've caught the
occasional rainbow there using Mepps spinners or similar things. This year,
I'd like to try the spot with a fly rod. The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've never
been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good starting point for
experimenting in a spot like this?

I'd prefer something that is 100% resistant to wind knots.

Cast a streamer into the bubbles. Make sure it gets down (sinking
line). Suggested streamers: Grey Ghost, Black Ghost, Muddler, or any
Bugger. You might also try nymphs with a floating line, using split
shot to get it down. Again, cast into the bubbles.

Flies don't cause wind knots. d;o)

Dave

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:05:03 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Next week I'll be at a large Adirondack lake. At one particular spot, a
stream dumps over a 50' ledge into this lake, so there's perhaps an acre
of
water that's cooler than the surrounding area, and I've caught the
occasional rainbow there using Mepps spinners or similar things. This
year,
I'd like to try the spot with a fly rod. The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've
never
been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good starting point
for
experimenting in a spot like this?

I'd prefer something that is 100% resistant to wind knots.

Cast a streamer into the bubbles. Make sure it gets down (sinking
line). Suggested streamers: Grey Ghost, Black Ghost, Muddler, or any
Bugger. You might also try nymphs with a floating line, using split
shot to get it down. Again, cast into the bubbles.




Flies don't cause wind knots. d;o)

I know. I was just dreaming that I was in a Disney cartoon where all my
casts were perfect.

I know. I was just dreaming that I was in a Disney cartoon where all my
casts were perfect.

I have that dream too. I'm always played by Donald Duck and wander
around with no pants on.
Frank Reid

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
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I know. I was just dreaming that I was in a Disney cartoon where all my
casts were perfect.

I have that dream too. I'm always played by Donald Duck and wander
around with no pants on.
Frank Reid


Seriously, this'll be the first time in a year I'll have some open space to
practice in. There's a haunted stream near home where I usually find a spot
with no trees for 200 feet in any direction. But within 5-10 casts, I turn
around and find that tall vegetation has snuck up behind me. Very spooky.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Next week I'll be at a large Adirondack lake. At one particular spot, a
stream dumps over a 50' ledge into this lake, so there's perhaps an acre
of water that's cooler than the surrounding area, and I've caught the
occasional rainbow there using Mepps spinners or similar things. This
year, I'd like to try the spot with a fly rod. The water's pretty
turbulent for about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface
feeding, I've never been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a
good starting point for experimenting in a spot like this?

I'd prefer something that is 100% resistant to wind knots.

Since the water is pretty turbulent and if the trout are surface feeding, I
would try to match the hatch first. Then if no results, take out the
searching flies, a #18 Elk Hair Caddis one dark and one light to start. If
no takes, I would switch to a Light Cahill in a #16, then to the Adams #16.
If still no takes, you need to go underneath.

Dave is right wind-knots are not caused by the fly.
Lefty Kreh would go even further, there are no such thing as a wind knot,
but a lot of poor casters.
The roll cast would be an excellent choice.
-tom

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Next week I'll be at a large Adirondack lake. At one particular spot, a
stream dumps over a 50' ledge into this lake, so there's perhaps an acre
of water that's cooler than the surrounding area, and I've caught the
occasional rainbow there using Mepps spinners or similar things. This
year, I'd like to try the spot with a fly rod. The water's pretty
turbulent for about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface
feeding, I've never been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a
good starting point for experimenting in a spot like this?

I'd prefer something that is 100% resistant to wind knots.

Since the water is pretty turbulent and if the trout are surface feeding,
I would try to match the hatch first. Then if no results, take out the
searching flies, a #18 Elk Hair Caddis one dark and one light to start.
If no takes, I would switch to a Light Cahill in a #16, then to the Adams
#16. If still no takes, you need to go underneath.



An EHC under a waterfall?

--riverman

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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Next week I'll be at a large Adirondack lake. At one particular spot, a
stream dumps over a 50' ledge into this lake, so there's perhaps an acre
of water that's cooler than the surrounding area, and I've caught the
occasional rainbow there using Mepps spinners or similar things. This
year, I'd like to try the spot with a fly rod. The water's pretty
turbulent for about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface
feeding, I've never been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a
good starting point for experimenting in a spot like this?

I'd prefer something that is 100% resistant to wind knots.

Since the water is pretty turbulent and if the trout are surface feeding,
I would try to match the hatch first. Then if no results, take out the
searching flies, a #18 Elk Hair Caddis one dark and one light to start.
If no takes, I would switch to a Light Cahill in a #16, then to the Adams
#16. If still no takes, you need to go underneath.



An EHC under a waterfall?

--riverman

Considering my skill level at this point, it could be a billiard ball and it
wouldn't matter.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Next week I'll be at a large Adirondack lake. At one particular spot, a
stream dumps over a 50' ledge into this lake, so there's perhaps an acre of
water that's cooler than the surrounding area, and I've caught the
occasional rainbow there using Mepps spinners or similar things. This year,
I'd like to try the spot with a fly rod. The water's pretty turbulent for
about 50 feet around the falls, so if trout are surface feeding, I've never
been able to see it. What sorts of flies would be a good starting point for
experimenting in a spot like this?

I'd prefer something that is 100% resistant to wind knots.

The streamers, woollys (and even a billiard ball - is that an egg
pattern? ;-)
are worth a try and I'd start with woollys myself.

Given that it's a lake though, I wouldn't discount midge pupa
and larva. They could be right through the water column around the
falls
stirred up form the depths by the turbulence.

The flys that work in the stream would be a good bet as well.

Steve