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Old January 27th, 2007, 02:34 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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It's not often a genuinely new wrinkle in fly fishing comes
along, but here's one complete with the physics ! ;-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/27/sp...7outdoors.html

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Old January 27th, 2007, 03:07 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Jan 27, 7:34 am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
It's not often a genuinely new wrinkle in fly fishing comes
along, but here's one complete with the physics ! ;-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/27/sp...7outdoors.html

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Ken Fortenberry


In this (New York Times) story a guy landed a fish by putting
the middle of his rod behind his neck, and then pushed or pulled on
the rod butt
to get more leverage ( a first class lever )?

Who needs more leverage? If you aren't strong enough to break
a six weight rod without the aid of a "first class lever" you (one is,
that is. I'm not
insulting Ken here) are muscularly challenged.

I do often land fish by gripping the rod about 10" above the handle,
with the rod butt under my forearm. But that's not for leverage, it
makes
it easier to swing the fish within reach.


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Old January 27th, 2007, 03:07 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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It's not often a genuinely new wrinkle in fly fishing comes
along, but here's one complete with the physics ! ;-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/27/sp...7outdoors.html


****ing brilliant!!!
Frank Reid

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Old January 27th, 2007, 04:04 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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salmobytes wrote:
Ken Fortenberry posted:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/27/sp...7outdoors.html


In this (New York Times) story a guy landed a fish by putting
the middle of his rod behind his neck, and then pushed or pulled on
the rod butt
to get more leverage ( a first class lever )?

Who needs more leverage? If you aren't strong enough to break
a six weight rod without the aid of a "first class lever" you (one is,
that is. I'm not
insulting Ken here) are muscularly challenged.

I do often land fish by gripping the rod about 10" above the handle,
with the rod butt under my forearm. But that's not for leverage, it
makes
it easier to swing the fish within reach.


I don't think arm strength is as much of an issue as
arm length. Putting the rod behind your neck or grabbing
it above the handle does the same thing, it brings the
fish within reach of your net. As to which method will
break a six wt easier sounds like one of rw's physics
experiments. ;-)

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Ken Fortenberry
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Old January 27th, 2007, 04:18 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
daytripper
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On 27 Jan 2007 07:07:30 -0800, "Frank Reid" wrote:


It's not often a genuinely new wrinkle in fly fishing comes
along, but here's one complete with the physics ! ;-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/27/sp...7outdoors.html


****ing brilliant!!!
Frank Reid


ahahahahaha!

/daytripper (he caught another one! ;-)
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Old January 27th, 2007, 04:25 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message news
It's not often a genuinely new wrinkle in fly fishing comes
along, but here's one complete with the physics ! ;-)


It's interesting, but I see a lot of broken rods in the future of people who
try this. Yeah, the static physics work well, but let that 18" rainbow make
a last-ditch run with a 4 wt behind your neck, and you have a lot less
ability to give ground. It would work best, of course, with a completely
played out fish; but I really don't want to whip one so severely that I
could simply pry him into the net.

Joe F.


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Old January 27th, 2007, 04:27 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:34:26 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

It's not often a genuinely new wrinkle in fly fishing comes
along, but here's one complete with the physics ! ;-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/27/sp...7outdoors.html


Um......oh kay......but, amazingly, I've never missed the dinner bell because
I couldn't land a fish on my own.

Lessee....palm to palm I sport a 6 foot wing span, add a couple of feet if
using a trout net...fishing with a nine foot fly rod (boron, of course ;-) and
allowing for the rod to effectively "shorten" by a couple of feet when holding
a fish, I should be able to use up to around 15 feet of leader and tippet and
still be able to reach the fish with that net...

/daytripper (he may know physics, but he don't know geometry...)
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Old January 27th, 2007, 05:52 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
It's not often a genuinely new wrinkle in fly fishing comes
along, but here's one complete with the physics ! ;-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/27/sp...7outdoors.html

I actually posted a thread about this exact same thing about 4 years ago
on this group, under the title "I think I invented something".
Discovered it by myself. As it turns out, I don't really have to use it
that often.

Pete Collin
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Old January 29th, 2007, 02:23 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. net...
It's not often a genuinely new wrinkle in fly fishing comes
along, but here's one complete with the physics ! ;-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/27/sp...7outdoors.html

--
Ken Fortenberry


Great reading Ken,
I do remember the Fosbury Flop in the '68 Olympics in Mexico City.
We were in Jr. High school at the time and would try to imitate the
technique on the high bar...unsuccessfully too, but it was fun.
fwiw,
-tom



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Old January 29th, 2007, 05:48 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"salmobytes" wrote in message
ups.com...
I do often land fish by gripping the rod about 10" above the handle,
with the rod butt under my forearm. But that's not for leverage, it
makes
it easier to swing the fish within reach.


Just an FYI, a buddy of mine snapped his Winston trying to land a 15 inch
rainbow with the technique you mentioned above. This of course after we had
all told him to keep his hand on the cork or he was going to bust his rod...

The Breenberg Grab sounds like another way to bust a rod to me...

YMMV,
JT


 




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