Orvis Catalog Pricing ?

Hi,

Not much to do this afternoon, so I thought I'd post this question regarding
Orvis pricing. Guess it's a bit of a "rant," but am curious about what
others think, or if I am the only one.

Finally got the Orvis Men's wear and Gift catalogs that I had been trying to
get for several weeks now, per
my old post on this.

Looked at the prices for shirts, etc., and all I can say is "Wow !"
Are they kidding ?

I can go to my local Macy's, or LL Bean's catalog, and can get truly the
same quality item for
1/2 or what they are asking, or better. $ 80 cotton shirts ?

Does anyone actually buy at these prices ?

I remember in Eco there is a very interesting graph called, if I remember
right, Laffer's curve.

It shows that if you price an item too low, you'll sell zillions of them,
but your overall profit will be very low. If priced too high, you'll make a
killing on a few sold, but again, the overall profit will be low.
Somewhere between these two extremes is a peak, or a pricing point, which
gives a maximum profit.
The curve always looks like a parabola, of course.

Can't help but feel that if they priced e.g., like Bean, and sell much more,
they would come out way ahead.

I know flyfishermen are rumored to be wealthy (hah !) but even if one is
"comfortable," I can't imagine their spending these kind of for items
priced like this. Or, perhaps they do ?.

Just curious what you folks think ?

Bob

"Robert11" wrote in message
. ..

Looked at the prices for shirts, etc., and all I can say is "Wow !"
Are they kidding ?
Does anyone actually buy at these prices ?
Bob

We have an Orvis store in Palo Alto. Whenever I visit my friend Steve the
manager, I wonder the same about the Orvis clothing line...nothing you'll
ever find in QG. Appeals mostly to the senior citizens, 75% are women, and
90% are non fly anglers..

You should read the Orvis history someday and the direction they took when
Perkins took over.
-tom

Robert11 wrote:
Hi,

Not much to do this afternoon, so I thought I'd post this question regarding
Orvis pricing. Guess it's a bit of a "rant," but am curious about what
others think, or if I am the only one. ...

Would you please tell me who gave you the Orvis gift certificate
which is causing you all this angst ? I will gladly send them a
subtle hint telling them next time they want to give Dad/Grandpa/
Hubbie a gift certificate make sure it's from WalMart.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:42:33 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Would you please tell me who gave you the Orvis gift certificate
which is causing you all this angst ? I will gladly send them a
subtle hint telling them next time they want to give Dad/Grandpa/
Hubbie a gift certificate make sure it's from WalMart.

Nah. Orvis is my kids' default. If they can't think of anything to
give dad (or grand dad) for birthday/Christmas/anniversary/Father's
Day, it is an Orvis gift certificate. I've bought some very nice
clothes from Orvis' catalog, and my local Orvis also strocks Simms and
Patagonia stuff. It's all relative; buy a shirt from Orvis for $60
and it remains in style and lasts for 5 years, or buy a cheapo from a
department store and it's out of style in a year and worn out in two.
I bought leather gloves from Orvis about six years ago, lined with
cashmere, $45. They still look good. Besides, Forty, I doubt like
hell you, of all people, would wear clothes from WalMart, or KMart.
Not the Ken I know and love. d;o)

Robert11 typed:
Hi,

Not much to do this afternoon, so I thought I'd post this question
regarding Orvis pricing. Guess it's a bit of a "rant," but am
curious about what others think, or if I am the only one.

Finally got the Orvis Men's wear and Gift catalogs that I had been
trying to get for several weeks now, per
my old post on this.

Looked at the prices for shirts, etc., and all I can say is "Wow !"
Are they kidding ?

I dunno - werte there smilies next to the prices?

I can go to my local Macy's, or LL Bean's catalog, and can get truly
the same quality item for
1/2 or what they are asking, or better. $ 80 cotton shirts ?

Then ****can the gift certificate and go to the other stores.

Does anyone actually buy at these prices ?

Yes - to the tune of many millions of dollars.

I remember in Eco there is a very interesting graph called, if I
remember right, Laffer's curve.

It shows that if you price an item too low, you'll sell zillions of
them, but your overall profit will be very low. If priced too high,
you'll make a killing on a few sold, but again, the overall profit
will be low. Somewhere between these two extremes is a peak, or a pricing
point,
which gives a maximum profit.
The curve always looks like a parabola, of course.

Can't help but feel that if they priced e.g., like Bean, and sell
much more, they would come out way ahead.

.. . . or they're perfectly happy selling what they sell at the price they
choose.

I know flyfishermen are rumored to be wealthy (hah !) but even if one
is "comfortable," I can't imagine their spending these kind of for
items priced like this. Or, perhaps they do ?.

Just curious what you folks think ?

I think you bitch too much, but that's just me. After you buy the Orvis
company, you can set the pricing any ol' which way you like. Until then,
either buy from them or don't. Personally, I have chosen "don't", but I
don't bitch about the prices.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

rw wrote in news:471fb460$0$17025
:

That is so sad in so many ways.

Well said, or at least said. I've flagged this one so when it turns into
the inevitable ****ing match I can remember who started it.

--
Scott
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:42:33 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:


Would you please tell me who gave you the Orvis gift certificate
which is causing you all this angst ? I will gladly send them a
subtle hint telling them next time they want to give Dad/Grandpa/
Hubbie a gift certificate make sure it's from WalMart.


Nah. Orvis is my kids' default. If they can't think of anything to
give dad (or grand dad) for birthday/Christmas/anniversary/Father's
Day, it is an Orvis gift certificate.

That is so sad in so many ways.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:21:26 -0700, rw
wrote:

That is so sad in so many ways.

Yeah, I know. You don't have grandchildren. Better than kids.

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Would you please tell me who gave you the Orvis gift certificate
which is causing you all this angst ? I will gladly send them a
subtle hint telling them next time they want to give Dad/Grandpa/
Hubbie a gift certificate make sure it's from WalMart.
snip
Besides, Forty, I doubt like
hell you, of all people, would wear clothes from WalMart, or KMart.

Well no, of course not, but the gift certificate isn't for me it's
for roff's serial Orvis whiner Bob.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On 24 Oct 2007 22:12:48 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Well said, or at least said. I've flagged this one so when it turns into
the inevitable ****ing match I can remember who started it.

d;o) It was meant for Ken, but hell, picking up Barnard on it,
well....., that's why the word "serendipity" is in the dictionary.