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Old February 10th, 2009, 02:24 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Obama gave a solid performance at his first press conference tonight. Laid
out the problem, in a simplified fashion, and his goals. I think the man is
showing how he learns well on the fly. I suspect he now knows he should have
taken that approach earlier in this whole process of passing the stimulus. I
note, as well, that the phone banks are starting back into service. I think
some recalcitrant GOP congressmen are about to start hearing from their
constituents........
Tom


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Old February 10th, 2009, 02:29 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Joe Biden was right that only unpatriotic America haters would not
pay taxes. So why is Obama trying to stuff his cabinet full of them?









On Feb 9, 7:24*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
Obama gave a solid performance at his first press conference tonight. Laid
out the problem, in a simplified fashion, and his goals. I think the man is
showing how he learns well on the fly. I suspect he now knows he should have
taken that approach earlier in this whole process of passing the stimulus.. I
note, as well, that the phone banks are starting back into service. I think
some recalcitrant GOP congressmen are about to start hearing from their
constituents........
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom


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Old February 10th, 2009, 06:37 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Feb 10, 10:29*am, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:
Joe Biden was right that only unpatriotic America haters would not
pay taxes. So why is Obama trying to stuff his cabinet full of them?

On Feb 9, 7:24*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:



Obama gave a solid performance at his first press conference tonight. Laid
out the problem, in a simplified fashion, and his goals. I think the man is
showing how he learns well on the fly. I suspect he now knows he should have
taken that approach earlier in this whole process of passing the stimulus. I
note, as well, that the phone banks are starting back into service. I think
some recalcitrant GOP congressmen are about to start hearing from their
constituents........
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom- Hide quoted text -


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Hmmm, name one cabinet member or nominee who did not pay their taxes.
For that matter, one who did not voluntarily correct any discrepancies
in their tax bill before the IRS asked them for it.

--riverman
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Old February 10th, 2009, 06:49 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Feb 10, 10:29*am, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:
Joe Biden was right that only unpatriotic America haters would not
pay taxes. So why is Obama trying to stuff his cabinet full of them?


Here's some intesting statistics from this article:
http://public.findlaw.com/taxes/audi...gligence..html

17% of all taxpayers are not complying with IRS laws in some form or
other.
The IRS expects a whopping 100% of all returns to have some sort of
error or another.
Only 0.0022% of all taxpayers (2472 Americans) are found guilty of tax
fraud.
75% of the cheating is done by middle-income earners, and
corporations.

Just FYI. Seems like it might be an impossible task to find a lily-
white tax return, in DC or otherwise.

--riverman
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Old February 10th, 2009, 02:14 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Pathetic




On Feb 9, 7:24*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
Obama gave a solid performance at his first press conference tonight. Laid
out the problem, in a simplified fashion, and his goals. I think the man is
showing how he learns well on the fly. I suspect he now knows he should have
taken that approach earlier in this whole process of passing the stimulus.. I
note, as well, that the phone banks are starting back into service. I think
some recalcitrant GOP congressmen are about to start hearing from their
constituents........
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom


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Old February 10th, 2009, 02:28 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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President Hope and Change has become President Doom and Gloom

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Old February 10th, 2009, 05:38 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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has Obama ended his illegal war yet?
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Old February 10th, 2009, 05:56 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Tragically, no one from either party is objecting to the health
provisions slipped in without discussion. These provisions reflect the
handiwork of Tom Daschle, until recently the nominee to head the
Health and Human Services Department.

Senators should read these provisions and vote against them because
they are dangerous to your health. (Page numbers refer to H.R. 1 EH,
pdf version).

The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United
States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked
electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records
at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial.
It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors.

But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National
Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments
to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems
appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and
“guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the
stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in
his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care
Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and
“learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

Keeping doctors informed of the newest medical findings is important,
but enforcing uniformity goes too far.

New Penalties

Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new
system will face penalties. “Meaningful user” isn’t defined in the
bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to
impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time” (511,
518, 540-541)

What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the
electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or
you need an experimental treatment? The vagueness is intentional. In
his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make
the “tough” decisions elected politicians won’t make.

The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating
Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal,
Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new
medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He
praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless
diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises
Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

Elderly Hardest Hit

Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors
should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead
of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.

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Old February 10th, 2009, 08:08 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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has Obama ended his illegal war yet?


Why don't you go and count some beans - take your time!
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Bill Grey

 




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