Pitiable TR: How a novice kicked my but on my favorite trout waters!

Received some very exciting news last Thursday evening. My Pulic
Management
professor, Dr. Dragan Stefanovic, (unfortunately: a very fine but
retiring
fly fishing professor) announced to the class that no one was obliged
to
take the final exam, as we were an exceptional class--all 5 of us.
However,
he did offer anyone who really wanted to take a final the opportunity
to do
so. I chose the former option.

So, he has freed up my weekend and all of next week for me; sadly,
though he
could not release me from my work duties. Saturday I performed my
first of
the season mowing and weed eating chores at mother's house and my
place.
SUNDAY, Bear, Larry, and I went fishin'!!!!!

Bear is a very experienced fly fisher, Larry not so much, before 9:30
or so.
Larry is one of my former classmates. He finished his MPA last year
and is
working to complete his Master of Science in Criminal Justice and
Criminology, by December of this year. He is a massive specimen of
human
flesh and bone, as well as being a very bright individual. He makes
them pro
westler types look like little girly men.

We met close by Greg's Optimistic RV and Campgrounds, drove the few
minutes
it takes to get to the stream, and hit the water around 7:30 this
morn. Bear
was beside himself, runnin' around in circles while hunting his
archenemies
and favorite breakfast snack--anything that buzzes: bees, wasps,
hornets....
Larry waited patiently for me to get my **** together. He brought his
ultralight spinnin' rig, but wanted to attempt to learn how to cast a
flyline. I brought along plenty of spare gear, even had a pair of felt-
soled
waders that sorta fit him. The only thing I didn't have was a extra
set of
hemostats, but really didn't expect they'd be needed. Boy was I ever
wrong!

Larry took to fly castin' like Fox newscasters take to lying. With
about 10
minutes of instruction on a wide open flat stretch of stream, Larry
was
cathin' rainbows. His cast was by no means artistic, but I have never
had
anyone learn to place a fly where they intended for it to go so
quickly or
so delicately. The show off even kept the line in his left hand, for
stripping and mending. That's right, he saw when he needed to mend his
line
and did so with only a couple of prompts from me. We fished for over 6
hours
and he cast a fly at least 4 1/2 of those hours. Actually, once he
picked up
the flyrod, he only used the spincaster on the last hole to try and
get a
lure down deep enough to get to some bigger trout. I happend to only
have
one sinkin' line with me and I wasn't about to give it up to the guy
who had
already out fished me on his very first fly fishin' excursion, ever!
Larry
caught around 7 or 8 trout--I quit counting at 6, as I only caught 1
trout
all day. You should have seen his face on his first catch, which he
made 3
or 4 fish before my 1st catch :~^ ( He even caught the last fish on
dry
fly, from a large deep pool--Mr. Miller knows this pool very well--
which is
on the way up to the take out trail, before the cable crossing at
Ravens
Cliff. Actually, Larry caught two trout out of that pool on dry fly
and in
the middle of the friggin ' pool to boot. I never catch trout, on dry
fly,
out of the middle of this pool. Usually, one has to cast all the way
across
the pool up against a large rockface, where the fly gets caught by
the
current and flows along the rock face to an eddy pool.

Unfortunately, between having to pay for his classes out of pocket
and
building a new home, Larry, a Captain (I believe) with the NC
Department of
Corrections, probably won't have the funds to purchase the gear
necessary to
get him really hook on fly fishin', though I have directed him toward
uncle
Wally's flyshop. Consequently, Bear will remain my bestest fishin'
buddy for
so time to come, unless I decide to outfit Larry myself :~ ^ )

Oh yeah, Dr. Stefanovic plans to do a great deal of fly fishin' in
his
retirement, so we are taking up a collection among MPA students to
purchase
him a gift certificate from uncle Wally's flyshop . I am hoping we can
raise
at least $700 to $800, then I will get on bended knee to beg uncle
Wally to
give the good Dr. a nominal discount on his purchases.

I'm sure Larry will hit the streams with me again, as he was like a
kid in a
candy store, once he began catchin' trout. I just love bringing joy
to very
large people, who could break me in half and squash me like a bug.
Unfortunately, Bear was so embarassed by my performance, he may never
be seen woth me again, much less go fishin' with me! All in
all, we had a blast and onle got rained on as we walked the trail out.
Bear
was a very tired hound, by the time he got back to mother's place and
headed
straight for his food bowl, after his obligatory end of the fishin'
day
hotdog and cheese slice.

Opie --if anyone wants to pressure Larry into buying the necessary
accoutrements to become my next to bestest fishin' buddy, I will
gladly send
them his personal cell#--

On 19-Apr-2009, wrote:

I'm sure Larry will hit the streams with me again, as he was like a
kid in a
candy store, once he began catchin' trout. I just love bringing joy
to very
large people, who could break me in half and squash me like a bug.
Unfortunately, Bear was so embarassed by my performance, he may never
be seen woth me again, much less go fishin' with me! All in
all, we had a blast and onle got rained on as we walked the trail out.
Bear
was a very tired hound, by the time he got back to mother's place and
headed
straight for his food bowl, after his obligatory end of the fishin'
day
hotdog and cheese slice.

Opie --if anyone wants to pressure Larry into buying the necessary
accoutrements to become my next to bestest fishin' buddy, I will
gladly send
them his personal cell#--

Thanks for the TR sounds like fun and better than a political post any day

I have a friend like Larry who also cannot afford the gear- Lynn
I do not have waders to loan him - Rod and vest yes. I even have an extra
hemostat and clippers
So I told him that startup min is $150- $160

Waders - $85 on sale at a local store
Wading Shoes 45 to $50 - Hogmans will last a couiple of yrs
License $20 plus

Unless he buys this he cannot go and he will not be going to Rock Creek w us

Too bad
I told him that an entry rod and reel is about $200 min -
TFO rod and some inexpensive reel (Cortland) - tho I have an old Battenkill
I would let him use

Luckily I have few other human fishing friends and several canine friends
but I leave them at home (3)

Fred

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 05:46:16 GMT, "Fred"
wrote:


On 19-Apr-2009, wrote:

I'm sure Larry will hit the streams with me again, as he was like a
kid in a
candy store, once he began catchin' trout. I just love bringing joy
to very
large people, who could break me in half and squash me like a bug.
Unfortunately, Bear was so embarassed by my performance, he may never
be seen woth me again, much less go fishin' with me! All in
all, we had a blast and onle got rained on as we walked the trail out.
Bear
was a very tired hound, by the time he got back to mother's place and
headed
straight for his food bowl, after his obligatory end of the fishin'
day
hotdog and cheese slice.

Opie --if anyone wants to pressure Larry into buying the necessary
accoutrements to become my next to bestest fishin' buddy, I will
gladly send
them his personal cell#--

Thanks for the TR sounds like fun and better than a political post any day

I have a friend like Larry who also cannot afford the gear- Lynn
I do not have waders to loan him - Rod and vest yes. I even have an extra
hemostat and clippers
So I told him that startup min is $150- $160

Waders - $85 on sale at a local store
Wading Shoes 45 to $50 - Hogmans will last a couiple of yrs
License $20 plus

Unless he buys this he cannot go and he will not be going to Rock Creek w us

Too bad
I told him that an entry rod and reel is about $200 min -
TFO rod and some inexpensive reel (Cortland) - tho I have an old Battenkill
I would let him use

Luckily I have few other human fishing friends and several canine friends
but I leave them at home (3)

Fred

Here's a link to a Ross starter fly fishing setup at Sierra Trading
Post. If the guy signs up for theirDeal Flyer he'll probably get an
"e-coupon" for 20% off within a week or two.

http://tinyurl.com/dy85u4

Or he could go all L.L. Bean and get waders and fly rod/reel/line for
lesss than $200.

http://tinyurl.com/cdcso4

http://tinyurl.com/da4ekx

OTOH, taking a noob on a fly fishing trip is a full time job. Not an
unpleasant one if you like that sort of thing, but a job all the same.

wrote in message
...
Received some very exciting news last Thursday evening. My Pulic
Management
professor, Dr. Dragan Stefanovic, (unfortunately: a very fine but
retiring
fly fishing professor) announced to the class that no one was obliged
to
take the final exam, as we were an exceptional class--all 5 of us.
However,
he did offer anyone who really wanted to take a final the opportunity
to do
so. I chose the former option.

So, he has freed up my weekend and all of next week for me; sadly,
though he
could not release me from my work duties. Saturday I performed my
first of
the season mowing and weed eating chores at mother's house and my
place.
SUNDAY, Bear, Larry, and I went fishin'!!!!!

Bear is a very experienced fly fisher, Larry not so much, before 9:30
or so.
Larry is one of my former classmates. He finished his MPA last year
and is
working to complete his Master of Science in Criminal Justice and
Criminology, by December of this year. He is a massive specimen of
human
flesh and bone, as well as being a very bright individual. He makes
them pro
westler types look like little girly men.

We met close by Greg's Optimistic RV and Campgrounds, drove the few
minutes
it takes to get to the stream, and hit the water around 7:30 this
morn. Bear
was beside himself, runnin' around in circles while hunting his
archenemies
and favorite breakfast snack--anything that buzzes: bees, wasps,
hornets....
Larry waited patiently for me to get my **** together. He brought his
ultralight spinnin' rig, but wanted to attempt to learn how to cast a
flyline. I brought along plenty of spare gear, even had a pair of felt-
soled
waders that sorta fit him. The only thing I didn't have was a extra
set of
hemostats, but really didn't expect they'd be needed. Boy was I ever
wrong!

Larry took to fly castin' like Fox newscasters take to lying. With
about 10
minutes of instruction on a wide open flat stretch of stream, Larry
was
cathin' rainbows. His cast was by no means artistic, but I have never
had
anyone learn to place a fly where they intended for it to go so
quickly or
so delicately. The show off even kept the line in his left hand, for
stripping and mending. That's right, he saw when he needed to mend his
line
and did so with only a couple of prompts from me. We fished for over 6
hours
and he cast a fly at least 4 1/2 of those hours. Actually, once he
picked up
the flyrod, he only used the spincaster on the last hole to try and
get a
lure down deep enough to get to some bigger trout. I happend to only
have
one sinkin' line with me and I wasn't about to give it up to the guy
who had
already out fished me on his very first fly fishin' excursion, ever!
Larry
caught around 7 or 8 trout--I quit counting at 6, as I only caught 1
trout
all day. You should have seen his face on his first catch, which he
made 3
or 4 fish before my 1st catch :~^ ( He even caught the last fish on
dry
fly, from a large deep pool--Mr. Miller knows this pool very well--
which is
on the way up to the take out trail, before the cable crossing at
Ravens
Cliff. Actually, Larry caught two trout out of that pool on dry fly
and in
the middle of the friggin ' pool to boot. I never catch trout, on dry
fly,
out of the middle of this pool. Usually, one has to cast all the way
across
the pool up against a large rockface, where the fly gets caught by
the
current and flows along the rock face to an eddy pool.

Unfortunately, between having to pay for his classes out of pocket
and
building a new home, Larry, a Captain (I believe) with the NC
Department of
Corrections, probably won't have the funds to purchase the gear
necessary to
get him really hook on fly fishin', though I have directed him toward
uncle
Wally's flyshop. Consequently, Bear will remain my bestest fishin'
buddy for
so time to come, unless I decide to outfit Larry myself :~ ^ )

Oh yeah, Dr. Stefanovic plans to do a great deal of fly fishin' in
his
retirement, so we are taking up a collection among MPA students to
purchase
him a gift certificate from uncle Wally's flyshop . I am hoping we can
raise
at least $700 to $800, then I will get on bended knee to beg uncle
Wally to
give the good Dr. a nominal discount on his purchases.

I'm sure Larry will hit the streams with me again, as he was like a
kid in a
candy store, once he began catchin' trout. I just love bringing joy
to very
large people, who could break me in half and squash me like a bug.
Unfortunately, Bear was so embarassed by my performance, he may never
be seen woth me again, much less go fishin' with me! All in
all, we had a blast and onle got rained on as we walked the trail out.
Bear
was a very tired hound, by the time he got back to mother's place and
headed
straight for his food bowl, after his obligatory end of the fishin'
day
hotdog and cheese slice.

Opie --if anyone wants to pressure Larry into buying the necessary
accoutrements to become my next to bestest fishin' buddy, I will
gladly send
them his personal cell#--

wrote in message
...
Received some very exciting news last Thursday evening. My Pulic
Management
professor, Dr. Dragan Stefanovic, (unfortunately: a very fine but
retiring
fly fishing professor) announced to the class that no one was obliged
to
take the final exam, as we were an exceptional class--all 5 of us.
However,
he did offer anyone who really wanted to take a final the opportunity
to do
so. I chose the former option.

So, he has freed up my weekend and all of next week for me; sadly,
though he
could not release me from my work duties. Saturday I performed my
first of
the season mowing and weed eating chores at mother's house and my
place.
SUNDAY, Bear, Larry, and I went fishin'!!!!!

Bear is a very experienced fly fisher, Larry not so much, before 9:30
or so.
Larry is one of my former classmates. He finished his MPA last year
and is
working to complete his Master of Science in Criminal Justice and
Criminology, by December of this year. He is a massive specimen of
human
flesh and bone, as well as being a very bright individual. He makes
them pro
westler types look like little girly men.

We met close by Greg's Optimistic RV and Campgrounds, drove the few
minutes
it takes to get to the stream, and hit the water around 7:30 this
morn. Bear
was beside himself, runnin' around in circles while hunting his
archenemies
and favorite breakfast snack--anything that buzzes: bees, wasps,
hornets....
Larry waited patiently for me to get my **** together. He brought his
ultralight spinnin' rig, but wanted to attempt to learn how to cast a
flyline. I brought along plenty of spare gear, even had a pair of felt-
soled
waders that sorta fit him. The only thing I didn't have was a extra
set of
hemostats, but really didn't expect they'd be needed. Boy was I ever
wrong!

Larry took to fly castin' like Fox newscasters take to lying. With
about 10
minutes of instruction on a wide open flat stretch of stream, Larry
was
cathin' rainbows. His cast was by no means artistic, but I have never
had
anyone learn to place a fly where they intended for it to go so
quickly or
so delicately. The show off even kept the line in his left hand, for
stripping and mending. That's right, he saw when he needed to mend his
line
and did so with only a couple of prompts from me. We fished for over 6
hours
and he cast a fly at least 4 1/2 of those hours. Actually, once he
picked up
the flyrod, he only used the spincaster on the last hole to try and
get a
lure down deep enough to get to some bigger trout. I happend to only
have
one sinkin' line with me and I wasn't about to give it up to the guy
who had
already out fished me on his very first fly fishin' excursion, ever!
Larry
caught around 7 or 8 trout--I quit counting at 6, as I only caught 1
trout
all day. You should have seen his face on his first catch, which he
made 3
or 4 fish before my 1st catch :~^ ( He even caught the last fish on
dry
fly, from a large deep pool--Mr. Miller knows this pool very well--
which is
on the way up to the take out trail, before the cable crossing at
Ravens
Cliff. Actually, Larry caught two trout out of that pool on dry fly
and in
the middle of the friggin ' pool to boot. I never catch trout, on dry
fly,
out of the middle of this pool. Usually, one has to cast all the way
across
the pool up against a large rockface, where the fly gets caught by
the
current and flows along the rock face to an eddy pool.

Unfortunately, between having to pay for his classes out of pocket
and
building a new home, Larry, a Captain (I believe) with the NC
Department of
Corrections, probably won't have the funds to purchase the gear
necessary to
get him really hook on fly fishin', though I have directed him toward
uncle
Wally's flyshop. Consequently, Bear will remain my bestest fishin'
buddy for
so time to come, unless I decide to outfit Larry myself :~ ^ )

Oh yeah, Dr. Stefanovic plans to do a great deal of fly fishin' in
his
retirement, so we are taking up a collection among MPA students to
purchase
him a gift certificate from uncle Wally's flyshop . I am hoping we can
raise
at least $700 to $800, then I will get on bended knee to beg uncle
Wally to
give the good Dr. a nominal discount on his purchases.

I'm sure Larry will hit the streams with me again, as he was like a
kid in a
candy store, once he began catchin' trout. I just love bringing joy
to very
large people, who could break me in half and squash me like a bug.
Unfortunately, Bear was so embarassed by my performance, he may never
be seen woth me again, much less go fishin' with me! All in
all, we had a blast and onle got rained on as we walked the trail out.
Bear
was a very tired hound, by the time he got back to mother's place and
headed
straight for his food bowl, after his obligatory end of the fishin'
day
hotdog and cheese slice.

Opie --if anyone wants to pressure Larry into buying the necessary
accoutrements to become my next to bestest fishin' buddy, I will
gladly send
them his personal cell#--


Now Mr. Bowen,

Surely you can rephrase your subject line to be just a little more
complimentary towards your manners on the stream and your guidance? After
all, I can attest to those facts . . .

Now if you wish me to call Mr. Larry I will gladly do so, and berate him
soundly...just tell me to do so after one or several beers!

....and I know it ain't much, but I've got an 8 1/2 foot, five weight, two
piece, Penns, Gold Medal fly rod I will toss into the mix. Not like some of
the rods you fellows fish but undeniably one of the most underpriced rods on
the market in it's time. Sorry, but I don't have a reel to offer....

I'd come down for the guide trip but the buddy from Germany does not fly
fish - I guess he couldn't pass the test.

I was thinking along the lines of fiddle contest and greased pig things or
maybe a cornhusker event to show my pal the 'real' America.'

john

On Apr 21, 1:59*am, "asadi" wrote:
wrote in message

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Now Mr. Bowen,

Surely you can rephrase your subject line to be
just a little more complimentary towards your
manners on the stream and your guidance? After
all, I can attest to those facts . . .

Well, if truth be told, I did let him have the
best pools and enjoyed watchin' him catch trout
much more than catchin' trout myself.

Now if you wish me to call Mr. Larry I will
gladly do so, and berate him soundly...just tell
me to do so after one or several beers!

I'd hate to think what he would do to me if I
actually did give out his personal cell #. I know
it would not be very pleasant :~^ (

...and I know it ain't much, but I've got an 8
1/2 foot, five weight, two piece, Penns, Gold
Medal fly rod I will toss into the mix. Not like
some of the rods you fellows fish but undeniably
one of the most underpriced rods on the market
in it's time. Sorry, but I don't have a reel to
offer....

Thanks, but I got plenty of lending gear 'til he
really gets hooked, I just gotta get him some size
12 wadin' boots, as my spare 11s wore a blister on
his heel, 'cause he couldn't get in them with the
neoprene socks.

I'd come down for the guide trip but the buddy
from Germany does not fly fish - I guess he
couldn't pass the test.

Yeah, I've had that problem with a few drug tests?

I was thinking along the lines of fiddle contest
and greased pig things or maybe a cornhusker
event to show my pal the 'real' America.'

If you can get tickets and get down here April
23-26, this is one of the biggest local events
fiddlin' wise.
http://www.merlefest.org/MerleFestCMS/default.aspx

Thanks for the offers of assistance, John.
Honestly, I was just jokin' about apparel and
stuff. He'll get hooked or he will miss out big
time!

Opie

john

Thanks for the offers of assistance, John.
Honestly, I was just jokin' about apparel and
stuff. He'll get hooked or he will miss out big
time!

Opie

john

For Larry or the Prof....the rod is a life time loan...as long as it finds a
good home. I'm not using it any more...

Hot Damn, A fiddle fest ? ! boy...if I could only be there....my man will
be visiting for the month of July....thank god I have a guest house!

Hmm....maybe I could show him NC and we could say that ...he he he, we
wanted to take him trout fishign and have him carry the food? It's a
thought? We could tell him that's how we do it here in the good old USA...!

john

On Apr 22, 12:38*am, "asadi" wrote:
Thanks for the offers of assistance, John.
Honestly, I was just jokin' about apparel and
stuff. He'll get hooked or he will miss out big
time!

Opie

john

For Larry or the Prof....the rod is a life time loan...as long as it finds a
good home. I'm not using it any more...

Hot Damn, A fiddle fest ? ! *boy...if I could only be there....my man will
be visiting for the month of July....thank god I have a guest house!

Hmm....maybe I could show him NC and we could say that ...he he he, we
wanted to take him trout fishign and have him carry the food? *It's a
thought? We could tell him that's how we do it here in the good old USA....!

john

I'm good for that!