Penn's questions

I don't live in Pennsylvania so I MIGHT be wrong, but I believe that May
is a rainy time of year.

Willi is NOT wrong. Over the last 30 years, we've averaged about an
inch of rain a week at that time of year. Dave and I got caught in a
minor blizzard last year! But we also have lovely, warm, sunny days
in May.

Well,

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.

Some questions:

What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?
Any special flies that are a must?
Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)
Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?
Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?
Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?
What will the climate be like?
Lou, is it OK if I accept your offer on a sleeping bag and mattress?
I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?
What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)
Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like that?

/ Roger
Daytime engineer
Lifetime fly fisherman
If you feel like it, visit http://www.imsoc.se/angler/ for info on fly
fishing in northern Sweden, Lapland,
or visit http://www.imsoc.se/ffgallery/ , the fly fishermen's gallery.

On 1/9/04 11:42 AM, in article , "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:

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What will the climate be like?

I hear tell it's guaranteed to be sunny and warm.

Bill

(I look forward to meeting you, Roger!)

What will the climate be like?

I hear tell it's guaranteed to be sunny and warm.

Compared to what, Scotland?
Bring your Swedish Gore-Tex Bikini Model Volleyball Team. I'm
personally looking for a good condition "dry suit" for this year.
Frank Reid

Roger writes:

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.

Some questions:

What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?

Penns Creek is a fairly large stream, wadeable, but you can only cross it at a
few places. I am sure that there will be side trips to smaller creeks. If
Dave PA goes, see if you can bum a ride with him. Great guy who knows the area
well.

Any special flies that are a must?

Most caddis and mayfly imitations work well. I've had lots of luck with PTs
and caddis larva numphs.

Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)

Jeffie will supply the cards, and they won't be marked. d;o)

Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?

There's a supermarket in Milheim. We'll stop there if you want. It's just up
the road from where we'll get your license. You can get stuff to make
sandwhiches or whatever you need.

Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?

Usually dinner is whenever someone feels like fixing something. I've learned a
long time ago that it's difficult to get everyone together at one time. But,
you won't go hungry.

Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?

Uhhh, the folks you'll meet at Penns do not need an excuse to get drunk.
Lobster nights is Thursday night at the Milheim. If you've never had lobster,
it will be a treat. You don't have to have lobster, however. They make a very
good hamburger fwiw.

What will the climate be like?

Could be chilly, but nothing that would require heavy clothes. I would say the
temps will be in the 60s or warmer during the day. The water will be cold.
Dress in layers.

Lou, is it OK if I accept your offer on a sleeping bag and mattress?

There are two couches in the cabin also.

I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?

I'm guessing that is a 9 ft 4 weight? I normally use the same rod in a two
piece model

What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)

Browns and rainbows. If Waldo goes, follow him and you'll catch lots of
suckers. d;o)

Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like that?


What else do you have to offer? d;o)
/ Roger
Daytime engineer
Lifetime fly fisherman
If you feel like it, visit http://www.imsoc.se/angler/ for info on fly
fishing in northern Sweden, Lapland,
or visit http://www.imsoc.se/ffgallery/ , the fly fishermen's gallery.


Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

William Claspy wrote:

On 1/9/04 11:42 AM, in article , "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:

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What will the climate be like?


I hear tell it's guaranteed to be sunny and warm.

Bill

(I look forward to meeting you, Roger!)


You're flying a long ways and I think you deserve a more honest answer.
I don't live in Pennsylvania so I MIGHT be wrong, but I believe that May
is a rainy time of year. The year I went, it literally rained every day
and the rivers were muddy and very high. That was an exceptional amount
of rain. Last year was better. The likelihood of muddied rivers is what
makes the trip this year iffy for me.

Maybe Bill is in charge of weather this year and he's guaranteeing good
weather?

Willi

In article , Roger Ohlund
wrote:

To add to Dave's advice,

Some questions:

What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?
Penns is scary strong in places, bring a wading staff (not as a carry
on!) In the areas I fished Spring Creek is usually 10 to 20 meters wide
and easily wadeable

Any special flies that are a must?
My best luck has been on caddis emergers, Hares ears and Pheasant tails

Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)
I'm sure they will be sufficently marked, now where's that Kroner
exchange chart?

Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?
Plenty locally.

Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?
Don't miss Asadi's mexican night or Franks Moose and Barly stew

Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?
The lobsters we're reffering to look like this. As Dave noted, no
excuse needed.
http://www.livelob.com/lobstergram/s...atid=SURFNTURF

What will the climate be like?
Here's a link to Jonas's shop. Although it looks a bit dormant right
now it's a wealth of information on conditions as the trip gets closer
http://www.twd.net/feathrhk/
you can also look up Coburn PA on weather.com and look at the
historical. I've seen shorts and t-shirts, I've seen hail and I've seen
Brookies rising in Frank's tent.

I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?
A 4 weight should work fine unless you fall into company with Petah and
end up night fishing with streamers

What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)
Yep, primarly although there are Brook trout as well.
Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like that?
Pancakes?

Really looking forward to meeting you.

Allen
Catonsville, MD

"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
...
Well,

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.

Some questions:


roger, my fishing experiences have primarily been on relatively small,
freestone streams in the southern appalachians, and i must say that
successful fishing at penn's creek requires an entirely different set of
skills. fishing is very technical. by that, i mean that most of the time,
selection of the right fly is far more important than any other factor. of
course, you must be able to lay out a little line, and mend a little, but
expertise in the use of rod and line is far less important than choosing
which fly to use: wet, dry, nymph, pattern, size---very technical. but the
up side is that the guys who are really good at this sort of thing (tom
littleton, mike makela, handyman mike, dave pa, louie lacourse, and similar
thieves) are very helpful to the uninitiated. makela actually spoke to me
one evening. really, though, the overall experience is the heart of the
trip. some fascinating folks and beautiful countryside. oh, it ain't the
southern part of heaven (the old north state), but it's ok.
you really won't need to bring a single fly. you can buy a few of the
patterns that the experts suggest, and your 9foot4weight is perfect for the
water. i would figure on a daily expense of about $50, not counting major
equipment madness.
if i am there, you will be treated to a performance at the hearts table
that can only be described as awesome, and impromptu folk rock concerts that
have ...changed... some of the attendees. other than that, i'm just a
regular guy.

your friend in the old north state
wayno

Alan wrote:snip I've seen hail and I've seen

I thought the next line would be from an old James Taylor song.

Big Dale

On 1/9/04 1:35 PM, in article ,
"Willi" wrote:



William Claspy wrote:

On 1/9/04 11:42 AM, in article , "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:

snip

What will the climate be like?


I hear tell it's guaranteed to be sunny and warm.

Bill

(I look forward to meeting you, Roger!)


You're flying a long ways and I think you deserve a more honest answer.
I don't live in Pennsylvania so I MIGHT be wrong, but I believe that May
is a rainy time of year. The year I went, it literally rained every day
and the rivers were muddy and very high. That was an exceptional amount
of rain. Last year was better. The likelihood of muddied rivers is what
makes the trip this year iffy for me.

Maybe Bill is in charge of weather this year and he's guaranteeing good
weather?

With the discussions of Penns weather that we've seen on ROFF, I didn't
think my post needed a smiley. :-)

Roger, plan on bringing everything from shorts to midweight long johns, from
sun hat to full on Gore Tex and you'll probably use most or all of it during
the week.

Honest Bill, who's barely in charge of himself.