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Hello,
Does anyone know if Ned Momany is still in the boat buildig business or if any of the molds from the Winner Boat Company are still in use to date? They made some great boats in their day! Jeff |
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Slinkeey wrote:
Hello, Does anyone know if Ned Momany is still in the boat buildig business or if any of the molds from the Winner Boat Company are still in use to date? They made some great boats in their day! Jeff I ran a factory Winner in the mid-to late 80s. I believe the last Winners that came out of Dickson TN were labeled '89 models, but were actually built/shipped in late '88. Ned had some trouble meeting insurance payments after a principal in the company made of with a large chunk of the bankroll, and closed up shop in '88. He resurfaced a couple years later at Bass Pro, about the time the glass boat division of Tracker was becoming Nitro, but wasn't there all that long, to my knowledge. The holding company that bought everything out (and came to get my factory boat) sold most everything to the guys who started Sprint boats. Sprint had the same hull design, but weighed about 2/3 as much, and didn't use the 'no-wood' stringer/transom system that made the Winner unique at the time. Ned was 60 when I met him in the mid-80s, so if he's still around, he would have to be in his mid-80s. |
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On Aug 3, 7:18*pm, RichZ
wrote: Slinkeey wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if Ned Momany is still in the boat buildig business or if any of the molds from the Winner Boat Company are still in use to date? *They made some great boats in their day! Jeff I ran a factory Winner in the mid-to late 80s. I believe the last Winners that came out of Dickson TN were labeled '89 models, but were actually built/shipped in late '88. Ned had some trouble meeting insurance payments after a principal in the company made of with a large chunk of the bankroll, and closed up shop in '88. He resurfaced a couple years later at Bass Pro, about the time the glass boat division of Tracker was becoming Nitro, but wasn't there all that long, to my knowledge. The holding company that bought everything out (and came to get my factory boat) sold most everything to the guys who started Sprint boats. Sprint had the same hull design, but weighed about 2/3 as much, and didn't use the 'no-wood' stringer/transom system that made the Winner unique at the time. Ned was 60 when I met him in the mid-80s, so if he's still around, he would have to be in his mid-80s. Ahhh.... Sprint Boats.. I aslso heard Aries may have also gotten some of the molds. Those boats still had wood in the transom though I beleive. I think many other Bass boat manufacturers had wood stringers even into the 90s. Did they get the fiberglass grid system idea from the older Winner Boat company that was bought up by Thompson? My parents had a Winner Chameleon and my mother seams to remember that you got a great boat for the money. I kind of want to get my hands on a Winner. The fiberglass stringer system makes me want to beleive that a Winner from the late 80s can still be a great shape. The only thing that scares me is the wood in the transom. Maybe when it is time to shop the used market, I should just forget about Winner.... One thing that I found interesting is that they made a boat called a Spirit.. It looks like a Ski Boat / Runabout on a bass boat's hull. I am guessing it was to compete with the smaller Checkmates. Wow I didn't realize Ned was in his 60's when he was involved with Winner. |
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Slinkeey wrote:
One thing that I found interesting is that they made a boat called a Spirit.. It looks like a Ski Boat / Runabout on a bass boat's hull. I am guessing it was to compete with the smaller Checkmates. Wow I didn't realize Ned was in his 60's when he was involved with Winner. Many bass boat manufacturers did the same thing. There's a guy around the corner from me with a fairly recent skeeter runabout. Then again, Hydrostream had a bass boat for one year, and so did Mastercraft (that's right, it was the Bass Nautique). Winner had a full line of Sal****er boats in the late 80s as well. Great big Cuddy Cabins and Center Consoles. |
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On Aug 4, 4:43*pm, RichZ
wrote: Slinkeey wrote: One thing that I found interesting is that they made a boat called a Spirit.. It looks like a Ski Boat / Runabout on a bass boat's hull. *I am guessing it was to compete with the smaller Checkmates. Wow I didn't realize Ned was in his 60's when he was involved with Winner. Many bass boat manufacturers did the same thing. There's a guy around the corner from me with a fairly recent skeeter runabout. Then again, Hydrostream had a bass boat for one year, and so did Mastercraft (that's right, it was the Bass Nautique). Interesting.. Winner had a full line of Sal****er boats in the late 80s as well. Great big Cuddy Cabins and Center Consoles. I knew about these.... I think I can find these easier then the bass boats. What do you think about a 20+ year old winner that has been taken care of.. If one can find one for the right price do you think it would be worth looking at? |
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Many bass boat manufacturers did the same thing. There's a guy around
the corner from me with a fairly recent skeeter runabout. Then again, Hydrostream had a bass boat for one year, and so did Mastercraft (that's right, it was the Bass Nautique). I am not talking Fish & Ski either.. I am talking closed bow.... hehe.... |
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Slinkeey wrote:
Many bass boat manufacturers did the same thing. There's a guy around the corner from me with a fairly recent skeeter runabout. Then again, Hydrostream had a bass boat for one year, and so did Mastercraft (that's right, it was the Bass Nautique). I am not talking Fish & Ski either.. I am talking closed bow.... hehe.... Right. That's what the skeeter around the corner was. |
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Slinkeey wrote:
What do you think about a 20+ year old winner that has been taken care of.. If one can find one for the right price do you think it would be worth looking at? My kid has a 23 year old dynatrak that's been great since he replaced the floors. And he's got a buddy with a Winner about the same age. The boat is very sound, but rodents chewed up the wiring to the front panel as well as the front livewell drain hose, and they are talking about popping the cap to repair it properly, Will be interesting to see how good the condition is under the floor.. |
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On Aug 5, 6:35*pm, RichZ
wrote: Slinkeey wrote: What do you think about a 20+ year old winner that has been taken care of.. *If one can find one for the right price do you think it would be worth looking at? My kid has a 23 year old dynatrak that's been great since he replaced the floors. And he's got a buddy with a Winner about the same age. The boat is very sound, but rodents chewed up the wiring to the front panel as well as the front livewell drain hose, and they are talking about popping the cap to repair it properly, Will be interesting to see how good the condition is under the floor.. Nice to see people taking care of these old boats. ![]() Interesting to see how the fiberglass stringer system held up in that Winner. Can't get to the wiring on the front panel by popping up some of the floor instead? Oooh that front livewell hose.... My parents winner Fish N Ski had that pop off and it was a real treat to get at.. That hose popping off and the battery shelf were the only things that ever had a problem on their Winner. The battery shelf may have been aftermarket from the Marina when adding trolling motor package. The Winner's had a wood transum but fiberglass stringers... Many of the other manufacturers didn't get the wood out of their stringers until the 90's I think Ranger had a no wul transom in the 80's though.. Funny how winner tackled the stringers first when everyone else appeared to go after the transom. |
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On Aug 5, 6:35*pm, RichZ
wrote: Slinkeey wrote: What do you think about a 20+ year old winner that has been taken care of.. *If one can find one for the right price do you think it would be worth looking at? My kid has a 23 year old dynatrak that's been great since he replaced the floors. And he's got a buddy with a Winner about the same age. The boat is very sound, but rodents chewed up the wiring to the front panel as well as the front livewell drain hose, and they are talking about popping the cap to repair it properly, Will be interesting to see how good the condition is under the floor.. So Close but bad engine... Wants 1200 for the boat... I suppose it all depends on how much it costs to repair the outboard... http://madison.craigslist.org/boa/1308460063.html |
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