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I cannot get over the fact that the high-end wader manufacturers refer to a
6' man with a 48" inch chest and a 36" waist as "stout," while at the same time consider a 6'1 man with a 46" inch chest and 42" waist to be of normal build (who is in better shape?). IF ANY REPRESENTATIVE FROM A WADER MANUFACTURER HAPPENS TO READ THIS NEWSGROUP, A MAN WITH 48" CHEST AND A 36" WAIST IS STILL CONSIDERED TO BE OF ATHLETIC BUILD BY MOST CLOTHING MANUFACTURERS (i.e., suits with more than six inches of drop between the chest and waist size are considered to be athletic-cut). REFERRING TO THESE PEOPLE AS "STOUT," WHICH IS SYNONYMOUS WITH "FAT," DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR SALES. Now, with that off of my chest. Why is it that fly fishing apparel does not following standard sizing rules? An extra-large in fly fishing clothing is somewhere between the sizes large and an extra-large in street clothes, and an extra-extra-large is like wearing a tent. The market is ripe for a manufacturer who a) does not refer to athletically-built men as "stout," and b) offers clothing cut for the larger athletically-built man. The last time I checked a 6' man, with a 33" inseam was not considered to be "short" by any definition. |
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![]() "Mark" wrote... I cannot get over the fact that the high-end wader manufacturers refer to a 6' man with a 48" inch chest and a 36" waist as "stout," while at the same time consider a 6'1 man with a 46" inch chest and 42" waist to be of normal build (who is in better shape?). IF ANY REPRESENTATIVE FROM A WADER MANUFACTURER HAPPENS TO READ THIS NEWSGROUP, A MAN WITH 48" CHEST AND A 36" WAIST IS STILL CONSIDERED TO BE OF ATHLETIC BUILD BY MOST CLOTHING MANUFACTURERS (i.e., suits with more than six inches of drop between the chest and waist size are considered to be athletic-cut). REFERRING TO THESE PEOPLE AS "STOUT," WHICH IS SYNONYMOUS WITH "FAT," DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR SALES. Never really gave it much thought. I just read what sizes fit which build and buy. I usually end up buying size FFT (f..kin' fat tall) and go fishing. Now, with that off of my chest. Why is it that fly fishing apparel does not following standard sizing rules? An extra-large in fly fishing clothing is somewhere between the sizes large and an extra-large in street clothes, and an extra-extra-large is like wearing a tent. The market is ripe for a manufacturer who a) does not refer to athletically-built men as "stout," and b) offers clothing cut for the larger athletically-built man. The last time I checked a 6' man, with a 33" inseam was not considered to be "short" by any definition. It's bad enough there are people wandering around in the rivers making sure their Orvis/Simms tags are showing. Now they'll want to make sure the "Athletic" designation is proudly displayed. Since I resemble a Sumo wrestler, maybe I could get one of them thar Athletic tags, eh? Nice troll, BTW. -- TL, Tim http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 08:31:33 -0500, "Mark"
wrote: I cannot get over the fact that the high-end wader manufacturers refer to a 6' man with a 48" inch chest and a 36" waist as "stout," while at the same time consider a 6'1 man with a 46" inch chest and 42" waist to be of normal build (who is in better shape?). IF ANY REPRESENTATIVE FROM A WADER MANUFACTURER HAPPENS TO READ THIS NEWSGROUP, A MAN WITH 48" CHEST AND A 36" WAIST IS STILL CONSIDERED TO BE OF ATHLETIC BUILD BY MOST CLOTHING MANUFACTURERS (i.e., suits with more than six inches of drop between the chest and waist size are considered to be athletic-cut). REFERRING TO THESE PEOPLE AS "STOUT," WHICH IS SYNONYMOUS WITH "FAT," DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR SALES. Now, with that off of my chest. Why is it that fly fishing apparel does not following standard sizing rules? An extra-large in fly fishing clothing is somewhere between the sizes large and an extra-large in street clothes, and an extra-extra-large is like wearing a tent. The market is ripe for a manufacturer who a) does not refer to athletically-built men as "stout," and b) offers clothing cut for the larger athletically-built man. The last time I checked a 6' man, with a 33" inseam was not considered to be "short" by any definition. Dear Stout Mark- Are you saying you want waders that are tapered at the waist? In waders the inseam is measured from the floor to the crotch, BTW. g.c. Who doesn't understand the problem, if one is vain one doesn't wear waders. |
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Mark wrote:
I cannot get over the fact that the high-end wader manufacturers refer to a 6' man with a 48" inch chest and a 36" waist as "stout"......... That must be very trying. ..... IF ANY REPRESENTATIVE FROM A WADER MANUFACTURER HAPPENS TO READ THIS NEWSGROUP, A MAN WITH 48" CHEST AND A 36" WAIST IS STILL CONSIDERED TO BE OF ATHLETIC BUILD BY MOST CLOTHING MANUFACTURERS ....... You may want to check if Cabela's can work up a personalized "Manly but Svelte" custom embroidery logo for you. Corporate Sales Department, 1-800-243-6626 JR |
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![]() "Mark" wrote in message ... I cannot get over the fact that the high-end wader manufacturers refer to a 6' man with a 48" inch chest and a 36" waist as "stout," while at the same time consider a 6'1 man with a 46" inch chest and 42" waist to be of normal build (who is in better shape?). IF ANY REPRESENTATIVE FROM A WADER MANUFACTURER HAPPENS TO READ THIS NEWSGROUP, A MAN WITH 48" CHEST AND A 36" WAIST IS STILL CONSIDERED TO BE OF ATHLETIC BUILD BY MOST CLOTHING MANUFACTURERS (i.e., suits with more than six inches of drop between the chest and waist size are considered to be athletic-cut). REFERRING TO THESE PEOPLE AS "STOUT," WHICH IS SYNONYMOUS WITH "FAT," DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR SALES. Never mind tall and fat try short and fat, and with boobs waders are only designed for whip thin tall titless women. |
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Jo Foster wrote:
Never mind tall and fat try short and fat, and with boobs waders are only designed for whip thin tall titless women. My guess is that the special needs of short, fat, buxom women play absolutely no role whatsoever in modern wader design. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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I have come to the conclusion that the general assumption is no
overweight/short/gravitational appendages type person does anything except sit in front of the tv. Yeah right......... |
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:45:16 -0700, rw
wrote: Jo Foster wrote: Never mind tall and fat try short and fat, and with boobs waders are only designed for whip thin tall titless women. My guess is that the special needs of short, fat, buxom women play absolutely no role whatsoever in modern wader design. Having tried to find waders for me, I'd say you're correct. I've wound up with used very tall 'stout' men's sizes. In neoprene. So I'll cut and paste. I always expected neoprene to get wet until a year or so ago when I found out, on ROFF, that waders aren't supposed to do that, so a leak or two at a home glued seam will be okay with me. I've been comfy enough in pretty cold water dunking in a kayak (I don't do that any more (the dunking, that is)) on a river early and late in the year, so wet waders will just be clumsy, not cold. I hope. I haven't tried it yet, having waded wet in warm weather and stayed on banks in cold. -- rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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"Jo Foster" wrote in message
Never mind tall and fat try short and fat, and with boobs waders are only designed for whip thin tall titless women. I bought a pair of waders for 5'-1" SWMBO, who (it might be argued fits that description, should I be indiscrete enough to mention it here) would say that they fit her reasonably well other than being a bit long in the crotch. They are the inexpensive Orvis breathables, whatever that line was called, and were sold as women's size small IIRC. Joe F. |
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![]() I've been contemplating a new pair of breathables myself. After studying all of the size charts, I have come to the conclusion that, of the dimensions listed (shoe size, inseam, and chest,) I can match exactly two out of three. I've given up on mail order, and will wait till I can get to a shop where I can try them on and see which one fits halfways decently. Kevin, 13,35,and 44, if you were wondering. |
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