Alaskan Clave, on the Highway???

Actually started this topic under Dave Lacourse's The Playground Part One
topic he started a few days back, but figured I would stop stealing his
thunder and bring it over here..

The big question was would there be enough people that could afford it?? I
think the short answer would be "no", if it was a trip like Dave's, the one
you want to do before you die, to Bristol Bay, or similar fly in lodge
locations. An alternative answer definetly exists, but we would just need
some R&D of a good plan. It may very well be a traveling Clave unless we
have someone on ROFF in the area.

My first thought based on my initial pilgrimage to Alaska, would be taking
the ferry system up from Seattle/Vancouver (assuming it still runs), making
a stops into some of the ports along the way for some day trips for
steelies, rainbows, and whatever salmon of choice is running. Plenty of
good fishing to be had along the way and at the time I planned my last trip
several years ago (I ended up flying up to Juneau as my wife wasn't up for
the Ferry), the Ferry system had some stops in many of the good places
through the inside passage like Haines, Ketchikan, Juneau, etc, as well as
stops in B.C..

Another option would be to fly into Juneau, and then booking a hop into
Yakutat, or Glacier Bay, or thereabouts. Glacier Bay Lodge had dorm rooms
available for $33 a night when I was here (1997), I'm sure they may be a bit
more expensive nowadays, but there were other deals along the way that were
similar like a house in Seward for $65 a night that could sleep 4 or 5 of
us. It took some planning and research to find stops like this, and it may
take a bit more to accommodate a larger crowd, but we could put something
together with 2006 timeline.

Or the maybe the most affordable renting a few monster campers out of
Anchorage and just doing it all by highway. We rented a car after doing the
Juneau/Glacier bay circuit for a few days, and just toured from Anchorage,
to Denali, over the Denali Highway to the Wrangell Mountains, back to
Anchorage and over to Seward.

I think I heard somewhere that they were building some new roads/park in the
Wrangells too, so maybe more access there by car???

A combination of all the above may work too, whatever. It's a lot to look
at, but given some time, we could get something together. Just a thought,
but I think I'll go find a fresh copy of the Alaskan Milepost must in case,

Mike

After three trips to Alaska [ by air, ferry and 9week driving trip from
North Carloina] I would suggest flying in and renting a couple of camper
vans. You can find good fishing all along road system in the state.
No big hike ins or float trips necessary to really enjoy the "Alaska
Experience"------- no big deal equipment costs ( I caught Big salmon on a
five weight] - no expensive lodge costs--guides are not necessary for
most fish and if you want to catch big halibat we could go on party boat
or charter for a day out of Homer .
When you want to camp--just pull off road and go to sleep.
Major decision is when to go --I think August is low bug month

We can buy smoked salmon fron indian squaws for major food--however it is a
little greasy as they leave lots of fat on fish for dogs to enjoy during
winter. you would be surprized what young squaws will offer in trade for a
pack of cigareets.

Perhaps Charlie chock could drive up his terminator trailer and serve as a
rolling clave headquarters

Just back from Minnosota where weather was lousy but had a couple of good
spinning days for large mouth [ 15 to 20 each day casting under docks on
lake] and wore out my shoulder casting 6 wt from canoe for smallmouth.
In heavy weeds and lily pads i used a weedless mouse type fly caught a
couple of 1 and 1/2 lb fish and one larger but not up to 22inch legal keeper
size.

Roger's tales of 60 pound back pack and 22 mile hike in to rivers in Sweden
scared me off but if i don"t have to drive I,m ready for motor homing in
Alaska.

Indian Joseph [trying to upgrade my image after seeing all the publicity
chief joseph gets in Montana]

After three trips to Alaska [ by air, ferry and 9week driving trip from
North Carloina] I would suggest flying in and renting a couple of camper
vans. You can find good fishing all along road system in the state.
No big hike ins or float trips necessary to really enjoy the "Alaska
Experience"------- no big deal equipment costs ( I caught Big salmon on a
five weight] - no expensive lodge costs--guides are not necessary for
most fish and if you want to catch big halibat we could go on party boat
or charter for a day out of Homer .
When you want to camp--just pull off road and go to sleep.
Major decision is when to go --I think August is low bug month

We can buy smoked salmon fron indian squaws for major food--however it is a
little greasy as they leave lots of fat on fish for dogs to enjoy during
winter. you would be surprized what young squaws will offer in trade for a
pack of cigareets.

Perhaps Charlie chock could drive up his terminator trailer and serve as a
rolling clave headquarters

Just back from Minnosota where weather was lousy but had a couple of good
spinning days for large mouth [ 15 to 20 each day casting under docks on
lake] and wore out my shoulder casting 6 wt from canoe for smallmouth.
In heavy weeds and lily pads i used a weedless mouse type fly caught a
couple of 1 and 1/2 lb fish and one larger but not up to 22inch legal keeper
size.

Roger's tales of 60 pound back pack and 22 mile hike in to rivers in Sweden
scared me off but if i don"t have to drive I,m ready for motor homing in
Alaska.

Indian Joseph [trying to upgrade my image after seeing all the publicity
chief joseph gets in Montana]

After three trips to Alaska [ by air, ferry and 9week driving trip from
North Carloina] I would suggest flying in and renting a couple of camper
vans. You can find good fishing all along road system in the state.
No big hike ins or float trips necessary to really enjoy the "Alaska
Experience"------- no big deal equipment costs ( I caught Big salmon on a
five weight] - no expensive lodge costs--guides are not necessary for
most fish and if you want to catch big halibat we could go on party boat
or charter for a day out of Homer .
When you want to camp--just pull off road and go to sleep.
Major decision is when to go --I think August is low bug month

We can buy smoked salmon fron indian squaws for major food--however it is a
little greasy as they leave lots of fat on fish for dogs to enjoy during
winter. you would be surprized what young squaws will offer in trade for a
pack of cigareets.

Perhaps Charlie chock could drive up his terminator trailer and serve as a
rolling clave headquarters

Just back from Minnosota where weather was lousy but had a couple of good
spinning days for large mouth [ 15 to 20 each day casting under docks on
lake] and wore out my shoulder casting 6 wt from canoe for smallmouth.
In heavy weeds and lily pads i used a weedless mouse type fly caught a
couple of 1 and 1/2 lb fish and one larger but not up to 22inch legal keeper
size.

Roger's tales of 60 pound back pack and 22 mile hike in to rivers in Sweden
scared me off but if i don"t have to drive I,m ready for motor homing in
Alaska.

Indian Joseph [trying to upgrade my image after seeing all the publicity
chief joseph gets in Montana]

"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
After three trips to Alaska [ by air, ferry and 9week driving trip from
North Carloina]

Joe:

So tell me more about the drive you took. Did you drive the Al-Can highway?
I've always thought it would be fun (an adventure) to do the Al-Can highway,
but have no idea if the roadway has ever been improved. I've heard horror
stories of severe road conditions in the past. Doing a Google, I saw that
you made reference to sleeping next to your stuck vehicle until another
truck came by to tow you out of mud. Please share some more stories of that
Alaskan experience and the travels you made around the state.

"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
After three trips to Alaska [ by air, ferry and 9week driving trip from
North Carloina]

Joe:

So tell me more about the drive you took. Did you drive the Al-Can highway?
I've always thought it would be fun (an adventure) to do the Al-Can highway,
but have no idea if the roadway has ever been improved. I've heard horror
stories of severe road conditions in the past. Doing a Google, I saw that
you made reference to sleeping next to your stuck vehicle until another
truck came by to tow you out of mud. Please share some more stories of that
Alaskan experience and the travels you made around the state.

I'm pretty new here, but I live in Anchorage.

If you take the time and effort to do the research before you come up you do
not have to EVER leave the main road system (fairbanks to homer/seward etc)
to find awesome fishing. You'll run into people either way you do it at this
time of year floating or wading, but wading will be far easier on the
wallet.

It's been a record summer up here for heat..so the bugs aren't what they'd
normally be, but they are there. It's pretty smoky the further north you get
towards Fairbanks, the fires have really taken their toll on air quality,
and the water levels on non glacial streams are really low..it helps with
sight fishing but the fish are 100 times more spooked than usual.

Either way as I mentioned there is a ton of fishing to be done from the
roadways, and the silver season is really kicking into high gear right now.
The trout/dolly fishing is only going to get better.

Robert

"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote in message
...
Actually started this topic under Dave Lacourse's The Playground Part One
topic he started a few days back, but figured I would stop stealing his
thunder and bring it over here..

The big question was would there be enough people that could afford it??
I
think the short answer would be "no", if it was a trip like Dave's, the
one
you want to do before you die, to Bristol Bay, or similar fly in lodge
locations. An alternative answer definetly exists, but we would just need
some R&D of a good plan. It may very well be a traveling Clave unless we
have someone on ROFF in the area.

My first thought based on my initial pilgrimage to Alaska, would be taking
the ferry system up from Seattle/Vancouver (assuming it still runs),
making
a stops into some of the ports along the way for some day trips for
steelies, rainbows, and whatever salmon of choice is running. Plenty of
good fishing to be had along the way and at the time I planned my last
trip
several years ago (I ended up flying up to Juneau as my wife wasn't up for
the Ferry), the Ferry system had some stops in many of the good places
through the inside passage like Haines, Ketchikan, Juneau, etc, as well
as
stops in B.C..

Another option would be to fly into Juneau, and then booking a hop into
Yakutat, or Glacier Bay, or thereabouts. Glacier Bay Lodge had dorm rooms
available for $33 a night when I was here (1997), I'm sure they may be a
bit
more expensive nowadays, but there were other deals along the way that
were
similar like a house in Seward for $65 a night that could sleep 4 or 5 of
us. It took some planning and research to find stops like this, and it
may
take a bit more to accommodate a larger crowd, but we could put something
together with 2006 timeline.

Or the maybe the most affordable renting a few monster campers out of
Anchorage and just doing it all by highway. We rented a car after doing
the
Juneau/Glacier bay circuit for a few days, and just toured from Anchorage,
to Denali, over the Denali Highway to the Wrangell Mountains, back to
Anchorage and over to Seward.

I think I heard somewhere that they were building some new roads/park in
the
Wrangells too, so maybe more access there by car???

A combination of all the above may work too, whatever. It's a lot to
look
at, but given some time, we could get something together. Just a thought,
but I think I'll go find a fresh copy of the Alaskan Milepost must in
case,

Mike

I'm pretty new here, but I live in Anchorage.

If you take the time and effort to do the research before you come up you do
not have to EVER leave the main road system (fairbanks to homer/seward etc)
to find awesome fishing. You'll run into people either way you do it at this
time of year floating or wading, but wading will be far easier on the
wallet.

It's been a record summer up here for heat..so the bugs aren't what they'd
normally be, but they are there. It's pretty smoky the further north you get
towards Fairbanks, the fires have really taken their toll on air quality,
and the water levels on non glacial streams are really low..it helps with
sight fishing but the fish are 100 times more spooked than usual.

Either way as I mentioned there is a ton of fishing to be done from the
roadways, and the silver season is really kicking into high gear right now.
The trout/dolly fishing is only going to get better.

Robert

"Mike Makela" ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote in message
...
Actually started this topic under Dave Lacourse's The Playground Part One
topic he started a few days back, but figured I would stop stealing his
thunder and bring it over here..

The big question was would there be enough people that could afford it??
I
think the short answer would be "no", if it was a trip like Dave's, the
one
you want to do before you die, to Bristol Bay, or similar fly in lodge
locations. An alternative answer definetly exists, but we would just need
some R&D of a good plan. It may very well be a traveling Clave unless we
have someone on ROFF in the area.

My first thought based on my initial pilgrimage to Alaska, would be taking
the ferry system up from Seattle/Vancouver (assuming it still runs),
making
a stops into some of the ports along the way for some day trips for
steelies, rainbows, and whatever salmon of choice is running. Plenty of
good fishing to be had along the way and at the time I planned my last
trip
several years ago (I ended up flying up to Juneau as my wife wasn't up for
the Ferry), the Ferry system had some stops in many of the good places
through the inside passage like Haines, Ketchikan, Juneau, etc, as well
as
stops in B.C..

Another option would be to fly into Juneau, and then booking a hop into
Yakutat, or Glacier Bay, or thereabouts. Glacier Bay Lodge had dorm rooms
available for $33 a night when I was here (1997), I'm sure they may be a
bit
more expensive nowadays, but there were other deals along the way that
were
similar like a house in Seward for $65 a night that could sleep 4 or 5 of
us. It took some planning and research to find stops like this, and it
may
take a bit more to accommodate a larger crowd, but we could put something
together with 2006 timeline.

Or the maybe the most affordable renting a few monster campers out of
Anchorage and just doing it all by highway. We rented a car after doing
the
Juneau/Glacier bay circuit for a few days, and just toured from Anchorage,
to Denali, over the Denali Highway to the Wrangell Mountains, back to
Anchorage and over to Seward.

I think I heard somewhere that they were building some new roads/park in
the
Wrangells too, so maybe more access there by car???

A combination of all the above may work too, whatever. It's a lot to
look
at, but given some time, we could get something together. Just a thought,
but I think I'll go find a fresh copy of the Alaskan Milepost must in
case,

Mike

ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote...
snipped a bunch

A combination of all the above may work too, whatever. It's a lot to look
at, but given some time, we could get something together. Just a thought,
but I think I'll go find a fresh copy of the Alaskan Milepost must in case,

Now this sounds like something I would definitely be into..... g
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt at earth(nospam)link dot net to reply via email)

ten.tsacmoc@alekamm wrote...
snipped a bunch

A combination of all the above may work too, whatever. It's a lot to look
at, but given some time, we could get something together. Just a thought,
but I think I'll go find a fresh copy of the Alaskan Milepost must in case,

Now this sounds like something I would definitely be into..... g
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt at earth(nospam)link dot net to reply via email)