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Old December 10th, 2003, 03:22 PM
CR
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I'm looking for ways to improve my success in clear water. I've
switched to low-vis green 6lb mono and smaller lures. I was looking at
my 4" texas rigged senko, sitting there in about 6 inched of water and
it occurred to me that the real problem is the big, ugly, metallic
hook sticking out. What about painting it a more natural color? Maybe
hiding it somehow?

Any ideas?

Chuck.
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Old December 10th, 2003, 03:29 PM
Bob La Londe
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"CR" wrote in message
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I'm looking for ways to improve my success in clear water. I've
switched to low-vis green 6lb mono and smaller lures. I was looking at
my 4" texas rigged senko, sitting there in about 6 inched of water and
it occurred to me that the real problem is the big, ugly, metallic
hook sticking out. What about painting it a more natural color? Maybe
hiding it somehow?

Any ideas?

Chuck.



How about going the other way? Maybe a bright red Daichi worm hook.


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Old December 10th, 2003, 05:31 PM
Chris Rennert
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Default Hiding worm hooks.

CR,

Bob is right on with the red hook. This is what I switch to in clear water.
Also black nickel works good. Also I would switch from lo-vis green mono to
straight P-Line Fluorocarbon or Seaguar Carbon Pro. These steps have
improved my success in clear water, so I can personally vouch for it.

Good luck and keep us up to date on how you do.

Chris
"CR" wrote in message
om...
I'm looking for ways to improve my success in clear water. I've
switched to low-vis green 6lb mono and smaller lures. I was looking at
my 4" texas rigged senko, sitting there in about 6 inched of water and
it occurred to me that the real problem is the big, ugly, metallic
hook sticking out. What about painting it a more natural color? Maybe
hiding it somehow?

Any ideas?

Chuck.



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Old December 10th, 2003, 07:02 PM
CR
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Default Hiding worm hooks.

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message ...
"CR" wrote in message
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I'm looking for ways to improve my success in clear water. I've
switched to low-vis green 6lb mono and smaller lures. I was looking at
my 4" texas rigged senko, sitting there in about 6 inched of water and
it occurred to me that the real problem is the big, ugly, metallic
hook sticking out. What about painting it a more natural color? Maybe
hiding it somehow?

Any ideas?

Chuck.



How about going the other way? Maybe a bright red Daichi worm hook.


Not a bad idea. At least it will look like something besides metal.
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Old December 10th, 2003, 11:33 PM
CR
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Default Hiding worm hooks.

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message ...
CR,

Bob is right on with the red hook. This is what I switch to in clear water.
Also black nickel works good. Also I would switch from lo-vis green mono to
straight P-Line Fluorocarbon or Seaguar Carbon Pro. These steps have
improved my success in clear water, so I can personally vouch for it.

Good luck and keep us up to date on how you do.


I like the idea of the red hook. I was also thinking of painting the
hook to match the bait I'm using. It just seems like the hook is WAY
more visible than the line. I have to look real close to see the line,
even in a couple inches of really clear water. The hook, however,
sticks out like a sore thumb. Switching to flourocarbon seems like
ordering a diet pepsi to go with your triple cheeseburger, in my most
humble and uninformed opinion.

That being said, I'll certainly try the fluorocarbon if I can't good
results on the mono.

Thanks!

Chuck.
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Old December 11th, 2003, 12:13 AM
ñKs
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Default Hiding worm hooks.

Do you know AL?

"CR" wrote in message
om...
I'm looking for ways to improve my success in clear water. I've
switched to low-vis green 6lb mono and smaller lures. I was looking at
my 4" texas rigged senko, sitting there in about 6 inched of water and
it occurred to me that the real problem is the big, ugly, metallic
hook sticking out. What about painting it a more natural color? Maybe
hiding it somehow?

Any ideas?

Chuck.



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Old December 11th, 2003, 01:42 AM
Chris Jones
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Default Hiding worm hooks.

Chuck,
I know that the hook seems to stand out from your perspective, but from my
experiences the fish will be more receptive to changes in the line versus
hooks. I have unscientifically tested the red hook craze sweeping the
nation and from my humble experiences it mattered not at all. What did
matter was the type of hook, ie 2/0 G-Lock wide gap gammi on a 4" Senko is
my go to bait in my local clear water lakes. The fish did not seem to care
if it was red or black, at least as far as catching them was concerned.
Where as the line color in these lakes was a major factor. Green-line, no
fish. Braided-line, no fish. Clear fluro-coated P-line, Fish On!
Flurocarbon, Fish On! Berkley XL Clear line, Fish On! and suprising enough
to me I tried some Cajun Red Line and to my suprise, Fish On! A picture is
worth a 1000 words so here is a link http://www.cajunline.com/science.html
All non-superlines were 8 pound test. The braid was 2 pound - diameter.
Just my humble experiences, your mileage may vary.
Chris
"CR" wrote in message
om...
"Chris Rennert" wrote in message

...
CR,

Bob is right on with the red hook. This is what I switch to in clear

water.
Also black nickel works good. Also I would switch from lo-vis green

mono to
straight P-Line Fluorocarbon or Seaguar Carbon Pro. These steps have
improved my success in clear water, so I can personally vouch for it.

Good luck and keep us up to date on how you do.


I like the idea of the red hook. I was also thinking of painting the
hook to match the bait I'm using. It just seems like the hook is WAY
more visible than the line. I have to look real close to see the line,
even in a couple inches of really clear water. The hook, however,
sticks out like a sore thumb. Switching to flourocarbon seems like
ordering a diet pepsi to go with your triple cheeseburger, in my most
humble and uninformed opinion.

That being said, I'll certainly try the fluorocarbon if I can't good
results on the mono.

Thanks!

Chuck.



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Old December 11th, 2003, 03:06 AM
RGarri7470
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Default Hiding worm hooks.

What about painting it a more natural color? Maybe
hiding it somehow?
Any ideas?

Chuck.

I have a couple of suggestions in answer to your question, rather than going
off on a tangent.

Try a smaller hook and bury most of it in the worm - will make setting the hook
more difficult, but if you get more bites might pay off.

Also - use a hook with a less wide gap and let the Senko hide most of it - even
rigging it inside the worm like a jig with the point sticking out if you can
get by with an exposed hook. Or you can run the shaft of the hook right beside
the Senko and have the point on the other side, just sticking in the worm. That
will also make the hook set more difficult.

You can buy painted hooks that will match the color of the worm. I prefer
trying to hide the hook in the Senko.

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com
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Old December 11th, 2003, 05:45 AM
go-bassn
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Default Hiding worm hooks.

Just how red is the Cajun Red Chris?

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"Chris Jones" wrote in message
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Chuck,
I know that the hook seems to stand out from your perspective, but from my
experiences the fish will be more receptive to changes in the line versus
hooks. I have unscientifically tested the red hook craze sweeping the
nation and from my humble experiences it mattered not at all. What did
matter was the type of hook, ie 2/0 G-Lock wide gap gammi on a 4" Senko is
my go to bait in my local clear water lakes. The fish did not seem to

care
if it was red or black, at least as far as catching them was concerned.
Where as the line color in these lakes was a major factor. Green-line, no
fish. Braided-line, no fish. Clear fluro-coated P-line, Fish On!
Flurocarbon, Fish On! Berkley XL Clear line, Fish On! and suprising

enough
to me I tried some Cajun Red Line and to my suprise, Fish On! A picture is
worth a 1000 words so here is a link

http://www.cajunline.com/science.html
All non-superlines were 8 pound test. The braid was 2 pound - diameter.
Just my humble experiences, your mileage may vary.
Chris
"CR" wrote in message
om...
"Chris Rennert" wrote in message

...
CR,

Bob is right on with the red hook. This is what I switch to in clear

water.
Also black nickel works good. Also I would switch from lo-vis green

mono to
straight P-Line Fluorocarbon or Seaguar Carbon Pro. These steps have
improved my success in clear water, so I can personally vouch for it.

Good luck and keep us up to date on how you do.


I like the idea of the red hook. I was also thinking of painting the
hook to match the bait I'm using. It just seems like the hook is WAY
more visible than the line. I have to look real close to see the line,
even in a couple inches of really clear water. The hook, however,
sticks out like a sore thumb. Switching to flourocarbon seems like
ordering a diet pepsi to go with your triple cheeseburger, in my most
humble and uninformed opinion.

That being said, I'll certainly try the fluorocarbon if I can't good
results on the mono.

Thanks!

Chuck.





  #10  
Old December 11th, 2003, 05:47 AM
go-bassn
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Default Hiding worm hooks.

The hooks I use with Senko's are made of very fine, light wire. I wacky rig
them & feel the fish never see them.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
What about painting it a more natural color? Maybe
hiding it somehow?
Any ideas?

Chuck.

I have a couple of suggestions in answer to your question, rather than

going
off on a tangent.

Try a smaller hook and bury most of it in the worm - will make setting the

hook
more difficult, but if you get more bites might pay off.

Also - use a hook with a less wide gap and let the Senko hide most of it -

even
rigging it inside the worm like a jig with the point sticking out if you

can
get by with an exposed hook. Or you can run the shaft of the hook right

beside
the Senko and have the point on the other side, just sticking in the worm.

That
will also make the hook set more difficult.

You can buy painted hooks that will match the color of the worm. I prefer
trying to hide the hook in the Senko.

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com



 




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