License Sales

A while back I commented on the drop in license sales, and the subsequent
decline in the industry. I got a lot of flack, and some constructive
commentary. I saw this posted on another group. I did not yet check it to
see if it backs up the declining license sales as reported in some of the
fishing magazines, but it has a lot of info regarding fishing license sales
if anybody is interested.

http://masl.gnomehack.com/?C56E32DE9

When I looked at Arizona, it looked like license sales were actually growing
for a couple years, and then dropped off the last couple. A small growth
would make sense due to the massive population growth of the state, but the
drop off the last couple years is a big surprise as the growth of the state
has done nothing but continue to increase. I was just checking total
licenses, permits, etc, so it is possible that the decline of winter
visitors post 9/11 has had a substantial effect.

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Bob La Londe wrote:
A while back I commented on the drop in license sales, and the subsequent
decline in the industry. I got a lot of flack, and some constructive
commentary. I saw this posted on another group. ...

http://masl.gnomehack.com/?C56E32DE9

Oh my, you've been reading roff ?!!?

You better get to the bathroom right away and wash your
mind out with soap. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

And you would know that HOW exactly? LOL.

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Bob La Londe wrote:
A while back I commented on the drop in license sales, and the
subsequent
decline in the industry. I got a lot of flack, and some constructive
commentary. I saw this posted on another group. ...

http://masl.gnomehack.com/?C56E32DE9

Oh my, you've been reading roff ?!!?

You better get to the bathroom right away and wash your
mind out with soap. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Bob La Londe wrote:
And you would know that HOW exactly? LOL.

I freely confess to being the sort of debauched degenerate
who would read roff, but I'm surprised at YOU, Bob. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Gotta be honest with you Ken. I'm a fisherman first, and a bass angler
second. If I can go out and have a blast catching fish I don't care what
kind they are. I even own not one, not two, but three fly rods. Never
caught a bass on any of them. Lotsa trout though.


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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Bob La Londe wrote:
And you would know that HOW exactly? LOL.

I freely confess to being the sort of debauched degenerate
who would read roff, but I'm surprised at YOU, Bob. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Bob La Londe wrote:
Gotta be honest with you Ken. I'm a fisherman first, and a bass angler
second. If I can go out and have a blast catching fish I don't care what
kind they are. I even own not one, not two, but three fly rods. Never
caught a bass on any of them. Lotsa trout though.

Man, that's a real shame. You owe it to yourself to target bass
with your fly rod one of these days.

When you toss one of Dave Whitlock's weedless deerhair creations
on top of a weed bed and then ever so slightly "twitch" it into
the water it doesn't disappear in swirl like it might with trout.
No, it explodes in a ferocious vortex, a heart pounding wall of
water displaced by that aquatic vacuum cleaner Mr. Largemouth.
It's a hoot.

Big smallies don't have as much flair for the dramatic when they
hit something on the surface, but they'll fight harder than a
largemouth of twice the size. There's lakes in northern Ontario
where you can catch 4 lb. smallies on a surface fly 'til you're
just too arm weary to catch anymore.

I hardly ever fish with anything other than a fly rod anymore
although I have been known to toss a gob of worms into the
Upper Mississippi, sit back in a lawn chair with a Budweiser
close to hand and wait for a channel cat who's dying to be
invited to dinner. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Bob La Londe wrote:
Gotta be honest with you Ken. I'm a fisherman first, and a bass angler
second. If I can go out and have a blast catching fish I don't care what
kind they are. I even own not one, not two, but three fly rods. Never
caught a bass on any of them. Lotsa trout though.

Man, that's a real shame. You owe it to yourself to target bass
with your fly rod one of these days.

When you toss one of Dave Whitlock's weedless deerhair creations
on top of a weed bed and then ever so slightly "twitch" it into
the water it doesn't disappear in swirl like it might with trout.
No, it explodes in a ferocious vortex, a heart pounding wall of
water displaced by that aquatic vacuum cleaner Mr. Largemouth.
It's a hoot.

Big smallies don't have as much flair for the dramatic when they
hit something on the surface, but they'll fight harder than a
largemouth of twice the size. There's lakes in northern Ontario
where you can catch 4 lb. smallies on a surface fly 'til you're
just too arm weary to catch anymore.

I hardly ever fish with anything other than a fly rod anymore
although I have been known to toss a gob of worms into the
Upper Mississippi, sit back in a lawn chair with a Budweiser
close to hand and wait for a channel cat who's dying to be
invited to dinner. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

And you would know that HOW exactly? LOL.

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Bob La Londe wrote:
A while back I commented on the drop in license sales, and the
subsequent
decline in the industry. I got a lot of flack, and some constructive
commentary. I saw this posted on another group. ...

http://masl.gnomehack.com/?C56E32DE9

Oh my, you've been reading roff ?!!?

You better get to the bathroom right away and wash your
mind out with soap. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Bob La Londe wrote:
A while back I commented on the drop in license sales, and the subsequent
decline in the industry. I got a lot of flack, and some constructive
commentary. I saw this posted on another group. I did not yet check it to
see if it backs up the declining license sales as reported in some of the
fishing magazines, but it has a lot of info regarding fishing license sales
if anybody is interested.

http://masl.gnomehack.com/?C56E32DE9

When I looked at Arizona, it looked like license sales were actually growing
for a couple years, and then dropped off the last couple. A small growth
would make sense due to the massive population growth of the state, but the
drop off the last couple years is a big surprise as the growth of the state
has done nothing but continue to increase. I was just checking total
licenses, permits, etc, so it is possible that the decline of winter
visitors post 9/11 has had a substantial effect.

This may be way off, but isn't Arizona a huge retirement state? I think
here in Wisconsin you no longer need a fishing license over 65 (I could
be wrong, and I a probably am) so I wonder if that has something to do
with the increase in population and the decrease in fishing licenses.
Also along the same lines, how has the number of country club licenses done?
In-Fisherman last month had a small article on the decline in resident
fishing licenses in Canada , but the increase in licenses from
non-resident fisherman. Maybe it is regional, but here in Wisconsin a
huge part of the population fishes, and it seems there are more and more
people fishing every year. In-Fisherman also mentioned that a big chunk
of the non-resident licenses come from Wisconsin as well. I personally
buy licenses for Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan , and Ontario. That also
includes a great lakes stamp where applicable :-).

Just some ramblings.

Chris

License prices are going up 30% here (TN) next year...


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
A while back I commented on the drop in license sales, and the subsequent
decline in the industry. I got a lot of flack, and some constructive
commentary. I saw this posted on another group. I did not yet check it
to
see if it backs up the declining license sales as reported in some of the
fishing magazines, but it has a lot of info regarding fishing license
sales
if anybody is interested.

http://masl.gnomehack.com/?C56E32DE9

When I looked at Arizona, it looked like license sales were actually
growing
for a couple years, and then dropped off the last couple. A small growth
would make sense due to the massive population growth of the state, but
the
drop off the last couple years is a big surprise as the growth of the
state
has done nothing but continue to increase. I was just checking total
licenses, permits, etc, so it is possible that the decline of winter
visitors post 9/11 has had a substantial effect.

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featuring
Secret Weapon Lures
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