Bolt Action or Double Rifle?

This is a question for all you Dangerous Game and African Safari
Hunters out there.

Which is your preference in an overall Dangerous Game Rifle?

Would you choose a Classic Bolt Action rifle in one of the big bore
caliber? .375 H&H on up?

Or would you go for one of the expensive Double Barrell Big Bore
rifles?

The common arguments are that Bolt Actions tend to be stronger have
greater accuracy and versatility while the doubles are more reliable in
a dangerous situation.

Would love to hear your view.

Carmelo
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This is a question for all you Dangerous Game and African Safari
Hunters out there.

Which is your preference in an overall Dangerous Game Rifle?

Would you choose a Classic Bolt Action rifle in one of the big bore
caliber? .375 H&H on up?

Or would you go for one of the expensive Double Barrell Big Bore
rifles?

The common arguments are that Bolt Actions tend to be stronger have
greater accuracy and versatility while the doubles are more reliable in
a dangerous situation.

Would love to hear your view.

Cone head woolly bugger on a heavy tippet.

Knocking them down is only the first step........you have to be able to
retrieve the game.

Wolfgang
who remains surprised that even the simplest concepts have to be explained
in excruciating detail again and again and again and again.......,.

Wolfgang wrote:

Cone head woolly bugger on a heavy tippet.

Knocking them down is only the first step........you have to be able to
retrieve the game.

Well sure, but I'd say a lead-eyed Clouser would be a better bet.
It's more streamlined, so it carries better and flies straighter.

Of course, it could be that we are arguing apples and oranges here.
What sorts of big game do you usually chase on the Cheesehead Savannah?


Chuck Vance (a fair-to-middling game hunter myself)

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

Cone head woolly bugger on a heavy tippet.

Knocking them down is only the first step........you have to be able to
retrieve the game.

Well sure, but I'd say a lead-eyed Clouser would be a better bet. It's
more streamlined, so it carries better and flies straighter.

Of course, it could be that we are arguing apples and oranges here.
What sorts of big game do you usually chase on the Cheesehead Savannah?

Spotted buffalo:

http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/cattle/holstein/

Chuck Vance (a fair-to-middling game hunter myself)

Wait till you try taking one of these babies on a 7 wt.!

Wolfgang
who, loathe to argue with success, intends to stick with the woolly
buggers......in a sorta grass green color.

wrote in message
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This is a question for all you Dangerous Game and African Safari
Hunters out there.

Which is your preference in an overall Dangerous Game Rifle?

Would you choose a Classic Bolt Action rifle in one of the big bore
caliber? .375 H&H on up?

Or would you go for one of the expensive Double Barrell Big Bore
rifles?


ah, carmelo, you bring to mind an argument that papa hemingway and i
spent many a gin and tonic arguing about. papa was always a proponent of
the big booms, the .470, the .505 gibbs, in double conformation, of course.

bull****, i said to ernest; give me a well made 7mm for anything with a
soft skin, and the *******s die, if they fly. the only two beasties that
require the giant solids are the elephant and the buff. and, imho, the ol'
47 is as much as one needs. that, and a damn fine pair of legs, if things
get touchy in the bush, don't you see? 'course, the wogs provide a damn
fine buffer for the first charge, boyo...

lord wayno

"Wayne Harrison"wrote:
bull****, i said to ernest; give me a well made 7mm for anything with a
soft skin, and the *******s die, if they fly. the only two beasties that
require the giant solids are the elephant and the buff. and, imho, the
ol' 47 is as much as one needs. that, and a damn fine pair of legs, if
things get touchy in the bush, don't you see? 'course, the wogs provide a
damn fine buffer for the first charge, boyo...

If I ever get so ****ed off at a lion that I have to kill him, I won't
settle for anything less than a 90mm recoilless rifle (second generation
bazooka).
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/huntlion.html

In article ,
"Charlie Wilson" wrote:

"Wayne Harrison"wrote:
bull****, i said to ernest; give me a well made 7mm for anything with a
soft skin, and the *******s die, if they fly. the only two beasties that
require the giant solids are the elephant and the buff. and, imho, the
ol' 47 is as much as one needs. that, and a damn fine pair of legs, if
things get touchy in the bush, don't you see? 'course, the wogs provide a
damn fine buffer for the first charge, boyo...

If I ever get so ****ed off at a lion that I have to kill him, I won't
settle for anything less than a 90mm recoilless rifle (second generation
bazooka).
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/huntlion.html

How about a back-pack Gatling gun like the one in the first Predator movie? Now
THERE'S some firepower!

Lest you doubt:

http://www.planetrainbowsix.com/armm...anual/saws.htm

From the page:

"Admittedly, the M134 were meant for mounted applications and never intend to be
hand-held. Stembridge Gun Rentals, which provided firearms for film productions
from 1916 to 1999, modified at least two real M134 for use in films such as
'Predator' and 'Terminator 2'. The cyclic rate was reduced to 1700rpm in order
to reduce torque and to lower the voltage required to power the motor which
rotates the barrels. When Stembridge quit the gun rental business due to the
oppressive legal climate in California, their set of modified M134 were placed
up for sale. For $125,000, a qualified individual could buy one, including the
associated movie props, spare parts, and live barrels. For additional money,
Stembridge's Minigun wrangler Dan Sprague would provide instruction on its use
and maintenance."

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:12:08 GMT, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:


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This is a question for all you Dangerous Game and African Safari
Hunters out there.

Which is your preference in an overall Dangerous Game Rifle?

Would you choose a Classic Bolt Action rifle in one of the big bore
caliber? .375 H&H on up?

Or would you go for one of the expensive Double Barrell Big Bore
rifles?


ah, carmelo, you bring to mind an argument that papa hemingway and i
spent many a gin and tonic arguing about. papa was always a proponent of
the big booms, the .470, the .505 gibbs, in double conformation, of course.

bull****, i said to ernest; give me a well made 7mm for anything with a
soft skin, and the *******s die, if they fly. the only two beasties that
require the giant solids are the elephant and the buff. and, imho, the ol'
47 is as much as one needs. that, and a damn fine pair of legs, if things
get touchy in the bush, don't you see? 'course, the wogs provide a damn
fine buffer for the first charge, boyo...

lord wayno

Pish-posh, and a "whoa-nelly," for good measure. In my experience in
the scrum of the hunt vis-a-vis dangerous game, my man Frothlingham
always knows to forward the No. 2 H & H Royal, the latter of the pair,
as I've found I prefer it. I realise the rifles are matched, but I find
the latter better-regulated in the closer ranges than the other. YMMV,
of course. That said, I would rely on Father's old Rigby .416 magazine
rifle, should I find it necessary. OTOH, Idi Amin swore by Kalishnikovs
and RPGs, so if one can't trust a bloodthirsty native cannibal, who can
one trust.

And by-the-by, yer lairdshippiness, why would one be hunting with wog
pushers on the Dark Continent - are we an equal-opportunity colonialist,
or do we just prefer wogs to, er, natives?

HTH (Hunting The Hippopotamuses),
The Marquess of Mortadella
....of course, the .600 Tyranosaur seems quite the load...much as the
original post.

wrote:

Which is your preference in an overall Dangerous Game Rifle?

Would you choose a Classic Bolt Action rifle in one of the big bore
caliber? .375 H&H on up?

Or would you go for one of the expensive Double Barrell Big Bore
rifles?

Depends how great your sense of inadequacy is, I guess....

In article synthfilker-
,
says...
If I ever get so ****ed off at a lion that I have to kill him, I won't
settle for anything less than a 90mm recoilless rifle (second generation
bazooka).
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/huntlion.html

How about a back-pack Gatling gun like the one in the first Predator movie? Now
THERE'S some firepower!


Wimps! When you are ready for a real challenge, put away the
firearms, and hunt lions using nothing but pure mathematics:
http://stuff.mit.edu/people/dpolicar.../lionhunt.html

Kevin
Nerd Humor R-Us

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