I'm sure that 40 was going to post this link...

.......from his beloved NY Times, but just in case, here it is.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/30/dining/30wine.html


Danl

Danl wrote:
......from his beloved NY Times, but just in case, here it is.

Just goes to show there's nitwits everywhere, even in the
Times.

--
Ken Fortenberry

The more elderly among you remember Ed Zern, who wrote a humor column
"Exit Laughing" on the last page of Field & Stream for many years, and
later collected them into a number of books with titles like To Hell
with Fishing, Are Fishermen People, A Fine Kettle of Fish Stories,
etc.

That's what he did for fun.

In his day job, Ed was Creative Director of a big-time Madison Avenue
ad agency, Geyer, Morey, Madden and Ballard. You may recall the Nash
Ambassador ads Ed wrote and illustrated.

We were fortunate to have Ed here at Penn State for a year (ca. 1966)
as a Distinguished Visiting Professor. I made the arrangements, so I
arranged to share an office with Ed for the year. A great year! We
did a lot of fishing and hunting.

The recent introduction of Budweiser "Select" beer reminds me of
something he told me while he was here.

At some kind of company party, he was chatting with the owner of a
distillery he didn't name. He said the distiller's ads claimed that
his brand was made from "select grains," so I asked him what that
meant.

Ed said the distiller replied, "It means I select the cheapest ones I
can find."

I trust 40 will forgive me for telling that.

vince norris

vincent p. norris wrote:
snip
The recent introduction of Budweiser "Select" beer reminds me of
something he told me while he was here.

At some kind of company party, he was chatting with the owner of a
distillery he didn't name. He said the distiller's ads claimed that
his brand was made from "select grains," so I asked him what that
meant.

Ed said the distiller replied, "It means I select the cheapest ones I
can find."

I trust 40 will forgive me for telling that.

That's as good an explanation of "select" as I've heard.

Used to be Budweiser listed rice right there on the label
and dumbass, yuppie beer snobs be damned. I guess the brewery
has decided that there's a lot more dumbass, yuppie beer
snobs now than there used to be.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:48:14 -0500, vincent p. norris
wrote:

The more elderly among you remember Ed Zern, who wrote a humor column
"Exit Laughing" on the last page of Field & Stream for many years, and
later collected them into a number of books with titles like To Hell
with Fishing, Are Fishermen People, A Fine Kettle of Fish Stories,
etc.

That's what he did for fun.

In his day job, Ed was Creative Director of a big-time Madison Avenue
ad agency, Geyer, Morey, Madden and Ballard. You may recall the Nash
Ambassador ads Ed wrote and illustrated.

Um, YOU might - those of us not alive with the dinosaurs, pre-Sinclair's
involvement, might not.

That said, however, one of the best fishing books ever, IMO is _The Hell
With Fishing_, courtesy of Webster and Zern (and let's not leave out the
other "The Hell With...." books)...heck, it was probably an instant
classic...

TC,
R

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 03:19:53 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

vincent p. norris wrote:
snip
The recent introduction of Budweiser "Select" beer reminds me of
something he told me while he was here.

At some kind of company party, he was chatting with the owner of a
distillery he didn't name. He said the distiller's ads claimed that
his brand was made from "select grains," so I asked him what that
meant.

Ed said the distiller replied, "It means I select the cheapest ones I
can find."

I trust 40 will forgive me for telling that.

That's as good an explanation of "select" as I've heard.

Used to be Budweiser listed rice right there on the label
and dumbass, yuppie beer snobs be damned. I guess the brewery
has decided that there's a lot more dumbass, yuppie beer
snobs now than there used to be.

Well, maybe, but that doesn't explain the company refraining from, er,
shading the truth and refraining from putting "Pure Clydesdale ****"
from the label...

As I've said before, I'm no beer connoisseur, but if Budweiser is "great
beer," a Yugo is a "great car"...heck, certain unnamed Busch family
members don't even drink it by choice.

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
...there's a lot more dumbass, yuppie beer
snobs now than there used to be.

Thus leaving Budweiser's popularity inexplicable......unless one subscribes
to the entirely reasonable theory that there are a lot more 124 star
gonfalon elitist dumbass yuppie beer snob wannabees than dumbass yuppie beer
snobs.

Wolfgang

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:03:59 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
...there's a lot more dumbass, yuppie beer
snobs now than there used to be.

Thus leaving Budweiser's popularity inexplicable...

ESPN
--
Charlie...
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http://www.chocphoto.com/roff

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

That's as good an explanation of "select" as I've heard.

Used to be Budweiser listed rice right there on the label
and dumbass, yuppie beer snobs be damned. I guess the brewery
has decided that there's a lot more dumbass, yuppie beer
snobs now than there used to be.

While I enjoy reverse-snobbism as well as the next guy, your seeming
need to classify as a "beer snob" anyone who recognizes Bud for what it
is, says a lot more about you than you might realize.


Chuck Vance (part-time beer snob and aspiring dry fly snob)

Conan The Librarian wrote:

While I enjoy reverse-snobbism as well as the next guy, your seeming
need to classify as a "beer snob" anyone who recognizes Bud for what it
is, says a lot more about you than you might realize.

Budweiser is the best selling beer in America. Budweiser is
consistently ranked as the best beer *of it's style* brewed
in the world. But all those people and all those industry
experts are wrong because only the select few really recognize
Bud for what it is. And of course, you're one of those select
few.

Congratulations on your accomplishment.

--
Ken Fortenberry