Lake Eufaula

Anybody fish Eufaula regularly? I know that the only color worm ever to be
used is green pumpkin(with & without chartreuse tail) and the only
spinnerbait to be used is white (with and without chartreuse mingled in the
skirt), but I'd still like to ask what the best color is for this lake. So
how about them opinions?
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Da Chief,
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Da Chief wrote:
Anybody fish Eufaula regularly? I know that the only color worm ever to be
used is green pumpkin(with & without chartreuse tail) and the only
spinnerbait to be used is white (with and without chartreuse mingled in the
skirt), but I'd still like to ask what the best color is for this lake. So
how about them opinions?
The late Tom Mann was speaking of Eufaula when he told me, "You'll catch
'em on any color worm you own here, as long as you only own blue worms."
Of course that was in 1977, so maybe the fish have forgotten how to bite
blue in the interim. But when I was there again nearly 25 years ago, I
fished with one of them 'local hero' types, and he used nothing but
black/blue fleck powerworms. That was late summer, and I schooled him
using a heavy jig in deep water. Black with a brown and blue plastic chunk.

"RichZ" wrote in message
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Da Chief wrote:
Anybody fish Eufaula regularly? I know that the only color worm ever to
be used is green pumpkin(with & without chartreuse tail) and the only
spinnerbait to be used is white (with and without chartreuse mingled in
the skirt), but I'd still like to ask what the best color is for this
lake. So how about them opinions?
The late Tom Mann was speaking of Eufaula when he told me, "You'll catch
'em on any color worm you own here, as long as you only own blue worms."
Of course that was in 1977, so maybe the fish have forgotten how to bite
blue in the interim. But when I was there again nearly 25 years ago, I
fished with one of them 'local hero' types, and he used nothing but
black/blue fleck powerworms. That was late summer, and I schooled him
using a heavy jig in deep water. Black with a brown and blue plastic
chunk.
I'm not certain if it's the same story but if so then I believe he suggested
the blue worm because that's what he was making while others did not. Not
only was he a great fishermen, he was also a savy salesman because he knew
his clients well. Kinda like the oldage- "takes one to know one".
--
Da Chief,
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Da Chief wrote:
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Da Chief wrote:

Anybody fish Eufaula regularly? I know that the only color worm ever to
be used is green pumpkin(with & without chartreuse tail) and the only
spinnerbait to be used is white (with and without chartreuse mingled in
the skirt), but I'd still like to ask what the best color is for this
lake. So how about them opinions?

The late Tom Mann was speaking of Eufaula when he told me, "You'll catch
'em on any color worm you own here, as long as you only own blue worms."
Of course that was in 1977, so maybe the fish have forgotten how to bite
blue in the interim. But when I was there again nearly 25 years ago, I
fished with one of them 'local hero' types, and he used nothing but
black/blue fleck powerworms. That was late summer, and I schooled him
using a heavy jig in deep water. Black with a brown and blue plastic
chunk.

I'm not certain if it's the same story but if so then I believe he suggested
the blue worm because that's what he was making while others did not. Not
only was he a great fishermen, he was also a savy salesman because he knew
his clients well. Kinda like the oldage- "takes one to know one".
Berkley research has shown that LM bass do not have Cones sensitive to
blue light. They do see Reds & greens which lead one to believe on how
they see blue depending on how dark the blue is , it just sees either a
light contrast or a dark contrast, depending on the background. So does
it see it as either grey or black? Who knows for sure.

Chris, where did you see that? That directly contradicts everything that I
have seen out of Berkley research, which does make that statement about
Muskie. Bass do possess both rods and cones, and I believe you may be in
error here. From what I have seen, Berkley has always maintained that bass
are able to recognize blue into rather extreme depths.

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))


"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
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Da Chief wrote:
"RichZ" wrote in message
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Da Chief wrote:

Anybody fish Eufaula regularly? I know that the only color worm ever to
be used is green pumpkin(with & without chartreuse tail) and the only
spinnerbait to be used is white (with and without chartreuse mingled in
the skirt), but I'd still like to ask what the best color is for this
lake. So how about them opinions?

The late Tom Mann was speaking of Eufaula when he told me, "You'll catch
'em on any color worm you own here, as long as you only own blue worms."
Of course that was in 1977, so maybe the fish have forgotten how to bite
blue in the interim. But when I was there again nearly 25 years ago, I
fished with one of them 'local hero' types, and he used nothing but
black/blue fleck powerworms. That was late summer, and I schooled him
using a heavy jig in deep water. Black with a brown and blue plastic
chunk.

I'm not certain if it's the same story but if so then I believe he
suggested
the blue worm because that's what he was making while others did not.
Not
only was he a great fishermen, he was also a savy salesman because he
knew
his clients well. Kinda like the oldage- "takes one to know one".
Berkley research has shown that LM bass do not have Cones sensitive to
blue light. They do see Reds & greens which lead one to believe on how
they see blue depending on how dark the blue is , it just sees either a
light contrast or a dark contrast, depending on the background. So does
it see it as either grey or black? Who knows for sure.

Bob Rickard wrote:
Chris, where did you see that? That directly contradicts everything that I
have seen out of Berkley research, which does make that statement about
Muskie. Bass do possess both rods and cones, and I believe you may be in
error here. From what I have seen, Berkley has always maintained that bass
are able to recognize blue into rather extreme depths.

Bob,

Bass definitely have both rods and cones, but from the research in
"Knowing Bass" he contended that bass cones were not sensitive to blue
light. I will re-read that part of the vision chapter, just to make
sure. But I had to read it 2 or 3 times myself originally. I don't
believe that is a matter that they cannot see blue at all, I think the
issue is more that they cannot determine shades of blue.

I will definitely re-read that section though, and directly quote it.

Thanks Bob,

Chris

Da Chief wrote:

I'm not certain if it's the same story but if so then I believe he suggested
the blue worm because that's what he was making while others did not. Not
only was he a great fishermen, he was also a savy salesman because he knew
his clients well. Kinda like the oldage- "takes one to know one".

Nah. In those days, blue was pretty much a standard worm color. In fact,
that was the color of the very first "non-natural" colored plastic
worm -- the worm that started the idea of colored worms instead of
attempts to mimic a nigh crawler. Seems one of Nick Creme's early
customers was a carpenter who put some loose plastic worms in his
toolbox. A packet of chalk-line chalk opened up and coated everything in
the toolbox rattling around in the back of his pickup. He couldn't bring
himself to throw away perfectly good worms just because they were
covered with blue chalk, but he couldn't bring himself to use them,
either. They layed there long enough for the dye from the chalk to
interact to be absorbed by the vinyl, and when he did finally go to use
them, the color wouldn't wash off with use. But they caught the snot out
of fish, and he shared that bit of info with Nick Creme, who then
started making worms in blue, and soon purple and black, as well as the
original natural night crawler color.

Thank You, Chris.

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
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Bob Rickard wrote:
Chris, where did you see that? That directly contradicts everything that
I
have seen out of Berkley research, which does make that statement about
Muskie. Bass do possess both rods and cones, and I believe you may be in
error here. From what I have seen, Berkley has always maintained that
bass
are able to recognize blue into rather extreme depths.

Bob,

Bass definitely have both rods and cones, but from the research in
"Knowing Bass" he contended that bass cones were not sensitive to blue
light. I will re-read that part of the vision chapter, just to make
sure. But I had to read it 2 or 3 times myself originally. I don't
believe that is a matter that they cannot see blue at all, I think the
issue is more that they cannot determine shades of blue.

I will definitely re-read that section though, and directly quote it.

Thanks Bob,

Chris