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Old May 16th, 2005, 08:53 PM
Bob
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Has anyone tried a line called a Hover line? Apparently it is a super slow
sinking line, less than .5 inches per second. If you use it, who
manufacturers it? I can't find it anywhere online.

Thanks


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Old May 16th, 2005, 09:16 PM
Larry L
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"Bob" wrote in

Has anyone tried a line called a Hover line?


Bob, as a direct answer ....no

but,
this is a second post on superslow sinking lines,
so,
let me add that my reply to the first one was only slightly silly. For a
number of years I spent about two weeks each late May/ early June, at the
damsel hatch on Davis Lake in California. Fish can be taken at varied
levels in the water column, but many of the damsel nymphs migrate to shore a
few inches below the surface and fish taking them provide a spectacular show
that makes one want to catch them at that level, in particular.
Thus,
I spent a lot of hours trying to figure out how to present a fly in that
upper foot of the water, over a long retrieve.
For me,
the solution turned out to be an old beat up dry line and flies on light
hooks but entirely tied from marabou to produce a near neutral buoyancy (
man I would have had to find a different word without spell check, I wasn't
even close :-). Yucky, over priced, never breaks down, environmentally
unfriendly, fluorocarbon tippet material can help a little too, but I got by
just fine by rubbing the tippet with slime and mud to break the film and
sink it a bit to avoid the fish scaring light streaks on the surface that I
bet have you on this search.

A beat up ( lots of cracks is good :-) dry line will not cast real well, but
combined with the right fly and leader modifications it will provide a just
under the surface stillwater retrieve. I moved on to spending the same
time period in Jellystone before I tried it, but I always meant to make a
shooting head out of a beat up dry line and probably greatly increase
casting distance possible.



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Old May 16th, 2005, 09:36 PM
Wayne Knight
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Bob wrote:
Has anyone tried a line called a Hover line? Apparently it is a super

slow
sinking line, less than .5 inches per second. If you use it, who
manufacturers it? I can't find it anywhere online.


I use an Airflo polyleader with hover properties. I use it for flies
that I don't want to weigh down and fish just under the surface.
Polyleadears are a system sold by airflo which take the place of a
standard tapered leader and depending on the tip, can keep the angler
from having to buy a variety of sinking lines.
http://www.flylines.com/Flylines_Pol...Freshwater.cfm

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Old May 16th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Larry L
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"Wayne Knight"

I use an Airflo polyleader with hover properties. I use it for flies
that I don't want to weigh down and fish just under the surface.



I'll have to try those, it's really the leader not the line that causes most
of the problems fishing a slowly retrieved fly just under the surface. Any
surface disturbance near the fly will upset the fish so the leader has to
ride at the 'just under' level too, not just the fly


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Old May 16th, 2005, 11:44 PM
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Hmm. I'm just about to retire an old dry line, so I'll give this a try.
thanks.

"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Bob" wrote in

Has anyone tried a line called a Hover line?


Bob, as a direct answer ....no

but,
this is a second post on superslow sinking lines,
so,
let me add that my reply to the first one was only slightly silly. For
a number of years I spent about two weeks each late May/ early June, at
the damsel hatch on Davis Lake in California. Fish can be taken at
varied levels in the water column, but many of the damsel nymphs migrate
to shore a few inches below the surface and fish taking them provide a
spectacular show that makes one want to catch them at that level, in
particular.
Thus,
I spent a lot of hours trying to figure out how to present a fly in that
upper foot of the water, over a long retrieve.
For me,
the solution turned out to be an old beat up dry line and flies on light
hooks but entirely tied from marabou to produce a near neutral buoyancy
( man I would have had to find a different word without spell check, I
wasn't even close :-). Yucky, over priced, never breaks down,
environmentally unfriendly, fluorocarbon tippet material can help a little
too, but I got by just fine by rubbing the tippet with slime and mud to
break the film and sink it a bit to avoid the fish scaring light streaks
on the surface that I bet have you on this search.

A beat up ( lots of cracks is good :-) dry line will not cast real well,
but combined with the right fly and leader modifications it will provide a
just under the surface stillwater retrieve. I moved on to spending the
same time period in Jellystone before I tried it, but I always meant to
make a shooting head out of a beat up dry line and probably greatly
increase casting distance possible.





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Old May 16th, 2005, 11:47 PM
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What I'm trying to do is beat the wind with a line that sinks extremely
slowly. A slowly sinking leader would still leave the line at the mercy of
the win.

"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Wayne Knight"

I use an Airflo polyleader with hover properties. I use it for flies
that I don't want to weigh down and fish just under the surface.



I'll have to try those, it's really the leader not the line that causes
most of the problems fishing a slowly retrieved fly just under the
surface. Any surface disturbance near the fly will upset the fish so the
leader has to ride at the 'just under' level too, not just the fly



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Old May 17th, 2005, 12:29 AM
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In that case, I doubt that my beat up dry line will help you much .... the
further out the line towards the tip the more beat up it is ... some near
you will still float and be blown by the wind... for the use I've
mentioned enough sinks to keep from spooking fish, but for your purpose I
think it will still have 'dry line' problems

I've always used an intermediate line when I wanted a slow retrieve and wind
was mucking up that retrieve by blowing the line ... you probably can slow
it down some with dressing ( as per previous post ) as I have floated an
intermediate that way briefly when I forgot to take a dry line and then
wanted one ... but it doesn't float well or long

I can't ever remember trying the beat up line method at such times, ....
I've only used it for damsel eaters and in a windy chop they don't make the
exciting swirls and boils that encourage special methods, so I just use
various sinking lines


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Old May 17th, 2005, 04:17 AM
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Hmm. Interesting. I'll be trying all this out this weekend, and if I get
some interesting results, I'll report back.



"Larry L" wrote in message
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In that case, I doubt that my beat up dry line will help you much .... the
further out the line towards the tip the more beat up it is ... some near
you will still float and be blown by the wind... for the use I've
mentioned enough sinks to keep from spooking fish, but for your purpose I
think it will still have 'dry line' problems

I've always used an intermediate line when I wanted a slow retrieve and

wind
was mucking up that retrieve by blowing the line ... you probably can slow
it down some with dressing ( as per previous post ) as I have floated an
intermediate that way briefly when I forgot to take a dry line and then
wanted one ... but it doesn't float well or long

I can't ever remember trying the beat up line method at such times, ....
I've only used it for damsel eaters and in a windy chop they don't make

the
exciting swirls and boils that encourage special methods, so I just use
various sinking lines




 




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