Fly fishing?

Hi all,

http://www.break.com/index/flyingfish.html?73b198b0

/Roger

Hey Roger:
I'll be on Skype tonight if you want to talk about the trip to NZ.

--rm

Yep,

Let's do that!

/Roger

angler wrote:
Hi all,

http://www.break.com/index/flyingfish.html?73b198b0

/Roger

I can see Orvis selling flashlights for $300!

On 15 Jan 2006 21:54:46 -0800, "angler" wrote:

Hi all,

http://www.break.com/index/flyingfish.html?73b198b0

/Roger

There's a fish in the US Southeast/East called, depending on location,
bowfin/grinnel/dogfish/choupique(shoepike), that does similar things.
I've have them land in the boat when fishing/frogging in bayous and
smaller rivers at night.

About the only place I know where they are actually caught and kept for
food is S. Louisiana, where they are "choupique." In Alabama and
Florida there are large tournaments to catch them (as "bowfin," for
sport rather than food).

TC,
R

wrote:

On 15 Jan 2006 21:54:46 -0800, "angler" wrote:


Hi all,

http://www.break.com/index/flyingfish.html?73b198b0

/Roger


There's a fish in the US Southeast/East called, depending on location,
bowfin/grinnel/dogfish/choupique(shoepike), that does similar things.
I've have them land in the boat when fishing/frogging in bayous and
smaller rivers at night.

About the only place I know where they are actually caught and kept for
food is S. Louisiana, where they are "choupique." In Alabama and
Florida there are large tournaments to catch them (as "bowfin," for
sport rather than food).

TC,
R

we have bowfin (grendle or grendel, blackfish) in the muddy creeks and
ponds of eastern nc. even have a state record - about 17 pounds i
think. they can be fun to catch. we usually get a few when bass fishing.
not as much fun to unhook. no one i know eats them...in fact the state
wildlife commission warns against eating them. we usually kill them
because they disrupt the bream/bass populations...

jeff

wrote:

On 15 Jan 2006 21:54:46 -0800, "angler" wrote:


Hi all,

http://www.break.com/index/flyingfish.html?73b198b0

/Roger


There's a fish in the US Southeast/East called, depending on location,
bowfin/grinnel/dogfish/choupique(shoepike), that does similar things.
I've have them land in the boat when fishing/frogging in bayous and
smaller rivers at night.

About the only place I know where they are actually caught and kept for
food is S. Louisiana, where they are "choupique." In Alabama and
Florida there are large tournaments to catch them (as "bowfin," for
sport rather than food).

TC,
R

oh yeah...never heard of our bowfin doing the spotlight air dance. ours
like to sulk in the muddy bottoms, kinda like a catfish, waiting to
ambush the unsuspecting. based on the sharp teeth and dense body mass,
don't think i'd want them jumping at me.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:57:05 -0500, Jeff Miller
wrote:

wrote:

On 15 Jan 2006 21:54:46 -0800, "angler" wrote:


Hi all,

http://www.break.com/index/flyingfish.html?73b198b0

/Roger


There's a fish in the US Southeast/East called, depending on location,
bowfin/grinnel/dogfish/choupique(shoepike), that does similar things.
I've have them land in the boat when fishing/frogging in bayous and
smaller rivers at night.

About the only place I know where they are actually caught and kept for
food is S. Louisiana, where they are "choupique." In Alabama and
Florida there are large tournaments to catch them (as "bowfin," for
sport rather than food).

TC,
R

oh yeah...never heard of our bowfin doing the spotlight air dance. ours
like to sulk in the muddy bottoms, kinda like a catfish, waiting to
ambush the unsuspecting. based on the sharp teeth and dense body mass,
don't think i'd want them jumping at me.

I don't think it has anything to do with light, or at least not exactly
in that the light alone causes the jumping. I think it is a "whole
package" of stimuli when they are "running," possibly even predators
(ala mullet), although I don't know what predator it might be. They are
cannibalistic, and I'd imagine that gar go after them, and maybe even
gators, so ??? Some years back, I talked about one instance of it
occurring in a TR...well, it was one of _my_ TRs, so it was more like
a...a...well, it was more of a "trip" than a "report," I suppose some
might allege...

Interesting that you use the term "grendel" (sp?) as that is what many
in MS/AL call them. I used that term one time in FL and was told it was
actually "grinnel" - I looked it up, and sure enough, "grendel" appears
to be a corruption of "grinnel."

Also, the behavior you mention is like the fish called "choupique" in
LA, and I've heard some old-timers say that bowfin/grendel/whatever and
choupique aren't exactly the same fish, but I've also heard others say
it is - maybe the habitat affects the behavior ??? They look the same,
so ??? The ones that jump are, in my experience, in moving brackish or
near-to-brackish, tannic, etc., water flowing into shallow salt water,
such as is pretty specific to coastal MS/AL.

TC,
R