Another reel seat question

My big rod (6/7 wt Guideline Pro) has an uplocking reel seat, and over
time I've noticed that the horn in the reel sits deeper and deeper in
the top ring, making the locking ring have to reach farther and farther
up to lock down the reel. Its at the point now where I'm right at the
ends of the threads in the seat. It doesn't look like anything is
sliding around...just that the horns on the reel are settling deeper
and deeper up in the seat.

What could be causing this, and how do I repair it? I've thought of
wrapping tape around the horns on the reel, or looking for an extra
long set of horns to screw onto the reel, or adding another 'spacer
ring' above the locking ring, but these don't seem like the proper
solution.

--riverman

In article om,
riverman writes
My big rod (6/7 wt Guideline Pro) has an uplocking reel seat, and over
time I've noticed that the horn in the reel sits deeper and deeper in
the top ring, making the locking ring have to reach farther and farther
up to lock down the reel. Its at the point now where I'm right at the
ends of the threads in the seat. It doesn't look like anything is
sliding around...just that the horns on the reel are settling deeper
and deeper up in the seat.

What could be causing this, and how do I repair it? I've thought of
wrapping tape around the horns on the reel, or looking for an extra
long set of horns to screw onto the reel, or adding another 'spacer
ring' above the locking ring, but these don't seem like the proper
solution.

--riverman


Hi Myron,

Would it be possible to epoxy the horns of an old reel under the horns
of the reel you're using? This might prove too much adjusment, but it's
an idea.
--
Bill Grey

There is a thin tape, made from cork and with a self-adhesive side, that
served me well to fix my reels in such conditions. Just adjust it under the
horn of the reel and cut to shapwith a razorblade (mind you fingers).

Hans van der Stroom


"W. D. Grey" schreef in bericht
...
In article om, riverman
writes
My big rod (6/7 wt Guideline Pro) has an uplocking reel seat, and over
time I've noticed that the horn in the reel sits deeper and deeper in
the top ring, making the locking ring have to reach farther and farther
up to lock down the reel. Its at the point now where I'm right at the
ends of the threads in the seat. It doesn't look like anything is
sliding around...just that the horns on the reel are settling deeper
and deeper up in the seat.

What could be causing this, and how do I repair it? I've thought of
wrapping tape around the horns on the reel, or looking for an extra
long set of horns to screw onto the reel, or adding another 'spacer
ring' above the locking ring, but these don't seem like the proper
solution.

--riverman


Hi Myron,

Would it be possible to epoxy the horns of an old reel under the horns of
the reel you're using? This might prove too much adjusment, but it's an
idea.
--
Bill Grey

In article l, Hans
van der Stroom writes
There is a thin tape, made from cork and with a self-adhesive side, that
served me well to fix my reels in such conditions. Just adjust it under the
horn of the reel and cut to shapwith a razorblade (mind you fingers).

Hans van der Stroom


"W. D. Grey" schreef in bericht
...
In article om, riverman
writes
My big rod (6/7 wt Guideline Pro) has an uplocking reel seat, and over
time I've noticed that the horn in the reel sits deeper and deeper in
the top ring, making the locking ring have to reach farther and farther
up to lock down the reel. Its at the point now where I'm right at the
ends of the threads in the seat. It doesn't look like anything is
sliding around...just that the horns on the reel are settling deeper
and deeper up in the seat.

What could be causing this, and how do I repair it? I've thought of
wrapping tape around the horns on the reel, or looking for an extra
long set of horns to screw onto the reel, or adding another 'spacer
ring' above the locking ring, but these don't seem like the proper
solution.

--riverman


Hi Myron,

Would it be possible to epoxy the horns of an old reel under the horns of
the reel you're using? This might prove too much adjusment, but it's an
idea.
--
Bill Grey



Hi Myron, something like this sounds better than my idea.
--
Bill Grey

riverman wrote:
My big rod (6/7 wt Guideline Pro) has an uplocking reel seat, and over
time I've noticed that the horn in the reel sits deeper and deeper in
the top ring, making the locking ring have to reach farther and farther
up to lock down the reel. Its at the point now where I'm right at the
ends of the threads in the seat. It doesn't look like anything is
sliding around...just that the horns on the reel are settling deeper
and deeper up in the seat.

What could be causing this, and how do I repair it?

Sometimes on larger rods they use slightly larger reel seats to
accommodate
larger reels. Manufacturers have not standardized reel feet or reel
seats. If the
reel feet on your reel are tapered from narrow at the tips to wider at
the center
where attached to the reel just grind a little bit of the tips off.
You'll be getting a
wider reel foot to bite into the hoods. Otherwise you are going to
need a new
reel seat. See my post "reel seat repair"


I've thought of
wrapping tape around the horns on the reel, or looking for an extra
long set of horns to screw onto the reel, or adding another 'spacer
ring' above the locking ring, but these don't seem like the proper
solution.

--riverman

You can put some electricians tape on the bottom of the reel foot and trim
it off with a razor blade. Try one thickness at a time till it fits right.

Some years back the fly fishing reel feet and fly rod reel seats where set
to an industry standard.

It use to be worse. Years ago we asked people to bring in their rod or reel
if they wanted to purchase either to be sure they fit together.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"riverman" wrote in message
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My big rod (6/7 wt Guideline Pro) has an uplocking reel seat, and over
time I've noticed that the horn in the reel sits deeper and deeper in
the top ring, making the locking ring have to reach farther and farther
up to lock down the reel. Its at the point now where I'm right at the
ends of the threads in the seat. It doesn't look like anything is
sliding around...just that the horns on the reel are settling deeper
and deeper up in the seat.

What could be causing this, and how do I repair it? I've thought of
wrapping tape around the horns on the reel, or looking for an extra
long set of horns to screw onto the reel, or adding another 'spacer
ring' above the locking ring, but these don't seem like the proper
solution.

--riverman

Bill Kiene wrote:
You can put some electricians tape on the bottom of the reel foot and trim
it off with a razor blade. Try one thickness at a time till it fits right.

Some years back the fly fishing reel feet and fly rod reel seats where set
to an industry standard.


These used to fit better, and both the rod and reel were purchased
within the past 6 years so they should be up to whatever the 'standard'
is. I can easily figure out a way to accommodate it, but I'm really
wondering what would make it deteriorate. If I put tape or a spacer on
the reel or rod without figuring out the cause, the problem will just
get worse. I can imagine the entire handle falling off on a cast one
day unless I find out whats going on.

--riverman

Hi RM

You can put multiple layers of electricians tape under the foot of the reel
till you are happy with the look of things.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

toll free USA 1-800-400-0359

Web site: www.kiene.com


"riverman" wrote in message
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My big rod (6/7 wt Guideline Pro) has an uplocking reel seat, and over
time I've noticed that the horn in the reel sits deeper and deeper in
the top ring, making the locking ring have to reach farther and farther
up to lock down the reel. Its at the point now where I'm right at the
ends of the threads in the seat. It doesn't look like anything is
sliding around...just that the horns on the reel are settling deeper
and deeper up in the seat.

What could be causing this, and how do I repair it? I've thought of
wrapping tape around the horns on the reel, or looking for an extra
long set of horns to screw onto the reel, or adding another 'spacer
ring' above the locking ring, but these don't seem like the proper
solution.

--riverman

On Jan 14, 8:34 am, "riverman" wrote:
My big rod (6/7 wt Guideline Pro) has an uplocking reel seat, and over
SNIP
--riverman

There are several possible reasons.

On some reel seats the upper reel foot holder begins to move further
up the reel seat after a while. I have never heard of one actually
falling off, but it makes it more and more difficult to secure the
reel properly.

Secondly, the reel foot holders are tapered. Screwing the reel in
tight every time, widens the tapers, and one is obliged to tighten
even more the next time, etc. Eventually the tapers are so widened
out, that they do not hold the reel foot at all, and it is merely held
by the force applied by the up-locking screw-ring. This is also
easily seen, if the tapers are widened ( which is almost certainly
your problem), then the reel will "wobble" from side to side, right up
until the final tightening of the screw, which however, basically only
locks the tips of the reel feet.

If you use tape or similar to try and help this problem, don´t put it
UNDER the reel feet, as this merely exacerbates the problem. For a
semi-permanent and easy fix, put a coat of epoxy on the TOP SIDES of
your reel feet. Also, use less force when locking your reel in future.

The only other solution is to change the reel seat.

TL
MC