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Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference,
between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? The context appears below the photo: http://montana-riverboats.com/Pages/...rms/index.html |
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sandy wrote:
Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? The context appears below the photo: http://montana-riverboats.com/Pages/...rms/index.html Isn't the San Juan Worm tied with chenille ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:11:25 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: sandy wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? The context appears below the photo: http://montana-riverboats.com/Pages/...rms/index.html Isn't the San Juan Worm tied with chenille ? light dawns over Marble Head ;-) Yes, it is. And Sandy is asking the philosophical question: is there really an ethical difference in simply buying plastic worms and tossing them with a fly rod, compared to using the classicly tied San Juan Worm - which most people still consider to be a "fly"... /daytripper (imo, one is borderline unethical, and the other is clearly unethical ;-) |
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daytripper wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: sandy wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? Isn't the San Juan Worm tied with chenille ? light dawns over Marble Head ;-) Yes, it is. And Sandy is asking the philosophical question: is there really an ethical difference in simply buying plastic worms and tossing them with a fly rod, compared to using the classicly tied San Juan Worm - which most people still consider to be a "fly"... /daytripper (imo, one is borderline unethical, and the other is clearly unethical ;-) Oh, now I get it. Sandy is administering a philosophy test, in other words his post is a troll. I don't use "classic" San Juan Worms and I sure as hell don't toss plastic worms with a fly rod and I wouldn't call either one fly fishing. Did I pass the philosophy test ? ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 07:27:07 -0600, sandy
wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? I don't believe your Sandy Worm is a fly. However, wrap a little hackle around it, and perhaps some herl and, voila, it's a fly. Go figure. |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:21:35 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: daytripper wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: sandy wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? Isn't the San Juan Worm tied with chenille ? light dawns over Marble Head ;-) Yes, it is. And Sandy is asking the philosophical question: is there really an ethical difference in simply buying plastic worms and tossing them with a fly rod, compared to using the classicly tied San Juan Worm - which most people still consider to be a "fly"... /daytripper (imo, one is borderline unethical, and the other is clearly unethical ;-) Oh, now I get it. Sandy is administering a philosophy test, in other words his post is a troll. I don't use "classic" San Juan Worms and I sure as hell don't toss plastic worms with a fly rod and I wouldn't call either one fly fishing. Did I pass the philosophy test ? ;-) lol That'll do, Ken. That'll do. /daytripper ;-) |
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![]() "Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 May 2007 07:27:07 -0600, sandy wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? I don't believe your Sandy Worm is a fly. However, wrap a little hackle around it, and perhaps some herl and, voila, it's a fly. Go figure. A fly is a type of insect, titting up a piece of plastic with a feather makes it a piece of feathered plastic. Any of that crap you fly fishers (me inc) call flies are not flies at all, we have all been conned. ![]() |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I don't use "classic" San Juan Worms and I sure as hell don't toss plastic worms with a fly rod and I wouldn't call either one fly fishing. .....so you're a purist (a fly fishing fundamentalist?). No problem. Really. No problem at all. Everybody fishes the way they want. I was just hoping to hear an articulate explanation. I realize plastic worms are despicable in some eyes. I just don't know why. And the more I try to figure out why, the less sense it makes. I *still* have not heard, in a sentance that makes sense, why the plastic worm is despicable, why the San Juan Worm is not quite as bad, etc. Say something logical and convincing, if you can. |
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Niteawk wrote:
"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 May 2007 07:27:07 -0600, sandy wrote: Ok, here's the question: what is the significant difference, between a San Juan Worm and a Sandy Juan Worm? I don't believe your Sandy Worm is a fly. However, wrap a little hackle around it, and perhaps some herl and, voila, it's a fly. Go figure. A fly is a type of insect, titting up a piece of plastic with a feather makes it a piece of feathered plastic. Any of that crap you fly fishers (me inc) call flies are not flies at all, we have all been conned. ![]() Cutting through the crap, the ultimate object of the exercise is to catch fish. Anglers can put whatever restrictions and handicaps on themselves that they feel fit -- dry flies only, no indicators, whatever floats your boat. It's just a personal choice. Whatever makes you happy. At times I've come up empty using flies and resorted to bait. When it worked I felt great. When it didn't I felt like a fool. One of the best fish I've ever caught was a big tarpon, using a fly rod with a "Gummy Minnow." It was hardly a "fly" in any traditional sense, but that didn't detract from the experience one whit. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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sandy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: I don't use "classic" San Juan Worms and I sure as hell don't toss plastic worms with a fly rod and I wouldn't call either one fly fishing. ....so you're a purist (a fly fishing fundamentalist?). No problem. Really. No problem at all. Everybody fishes the way they want. I was just hoping to hear an articulate explanation. I realize plastic worms are despicable in some eyes. I just don't know why. And the more I try to figure out why, the less sense it makes. I *still* have not heard, in a sentance that makes sense, why the plastic worm is despicable, why the San Juan Worm is not quite as bad, etc. Say something logical and convincing, if you can. I didn't say a plastic worm was despicable I said it wasn't a fly and one fly fishes with a fly. You can fish with whatever legal device you want, but for me it isn't fly fishing unless you're fishing with a fly. And no, the "classic" San Juan Worm is *not* a fly either. It all seems logical to me but I doubt you're convinced. ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
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