Lapland Clave.....

As a matter of curiosity, what airport would a person be flying into and
what would then be the next step ... car rental?

Some curious searching shows the airfare to be about $1200, roundtrip, from
Ohio.

The Embassy here says that there are no restrictions as far as bringing your
own rods and flies with you.

What would the highs and lows be like, weather wise? Gonna need those cut
little mesh net hats for the black flies?

Say a person wanted to spend a night or two in a hotel, prior to departure,
just to have a few beers around town and do a little sightseeing, what would
a less than first class hotel cost?

john

"asadi" wrote in message
...
As a matter of curiosity, what airport would a person be flying into and
what would then be the next step ... car rental?

Some curious searching shows the airfare to be about $1200, roundtrip,
from
Ohio.

The Embassy here says that there are no restrictions as far as bringing
your
own rods and flies with you.

What would the highs and lows be like, weather wise? Gonna need those cut
little mesh net hats for the black flies?

Say a person wanted to spend a night or two in a hotel, prior to
departure,
just to have a few beers around town and do a little sightseeing, what
would
a less than first class hotel cost?

john


John,

I'm guessing you're talking about the Swedish Lapland clave here, since I've
heard of no other Lapland Clave.

Starting with the flight. You would want to get to Umea in the north of
Sweden, normally this means changing flights in Stockholm.
No rental car would be necessary if you plan on staying throughout the
duration of the clave. Plenty of cars will be leaving from Umea.
No restrictions as far as the rods, reels, lines and flies.
Low temeperature in the mountain region during summer would be about 10
degrees Celcius (50 degrees Farenheit) and high would be 30 degrees Celsius
(86 degrees Farenheit). It can get colder than the low temperature during
night but not by much.
The bug-problem ;-). Well, you might need insect repellants or maybe one
of those nets. Anyway, the two last trips to the mountain region during
early August wasn't all that bad.

Here are some lines that I wrote last year, preparing for the clave:

"Fishing is fair enough in July but can be really great in August, July on
the other hand has other advantages, as a never ending daylight. The area
can only be categorized as wilderness, ..........with a road to it. There
are some small villages not too far away where supplies can be refilled. The
wildlife consists mainly of birds, reindeer, moose, hare, lemming, squirrel,
fox, badger, wolf (rare), bear (rare), lynx, wolverine (rare) and FISH. We
have no really poisonous snakes, the only one considered poisonous is about
as poisonous as a wasp. We do, usually, have an abundance of mosquitoes
(irritating but not dangerous, or as a friend of mine put it: "It's all
about attitude"). All the rivers and creeks can supply drinking water."

Hotel costs? I don't know but I can find out. If you're thinking Umea rather
than Stockholm I can probably fix it so that you could borrow my brothers
apartment or something. That way the cost would be less and I could find an
excuse to drink some beer with you before the clave............practice
makes perfect.

/ Roger
Daytime engineer
Lifetime flyfisherman
If you feel like it, visit http://biphome.spray.se/angler/ for info on
flyfishing in northern Sweden, Lapland

"asadi" wrote in message
...
As a matter of curiosity, what airport would a person be flying into and
what would then be the next step ... car rental?

Last year, I flew into Stockholm. From there, I got a sleeper cabin on an
overnight train to Umea for $75; definately a great way to go. Flying into
Umea is also possible, but it adds quite a bit to your plane ticket, and you
miss a nice rail journey. You can get the tickets at the central train
station in Stockholm easily.


Some curious searching shows the airfare to be about $1200, roundtrip,
from
Ohio.

To where? Stockholm, or Umea?


The Embassy here says that there are no restrictions as far as bringing
your
own rods and flies with you.

That's correct, although you might run into some stubborn security guards
who force you to check them. I met one in Germany. And rumor has it that
they have sniffer dogs in case you are bringing in a load of cocaine or
something. g


What would the highs and lows be like, weather wise? Gonna need those cut
little mesh net hats for the black flies?

Its 24-hour daylight, so the variance isn't all that much. In Farenheit, the
highs were early afternoon at around 80, the lows were 3-4 AM at about 50,
maybe. Bugs were completely manageable; no mesh hats required. The weather
was incredible.


Say a person wanted to spend a night or two in a hotel, prior to
departure,
just to have a few beers around town and do a little sightseeing, what
would
a less than first class hotel cost?

About $100 a night for a 3 star. If you can find one. There's not much
sightseeing in Umea, and if you come up on the train, you'll see plenty of
wondrous sights.

--riverman

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:47:55 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:

Last year, I flew into Stockholm. From there, I got a sleeper cabin on an
overnight train to Umea for $75; definately a great way to go. Flying into
Umea is also possible, but it adds quite a bit to your plane ticket, and you
miss a nice rail journey. You can get the tickets at the central train
station in Stockholm easily.

The train sounds interesting. Is it $75 round trip? From what I can
tell it's about $150 for round trip airfare between Stockholm and
Umea. The advantage of flying all the way is that your baggage would
be checked to Umea, so if any of it missed a connection along the way
that's where it would be sent instead of just to Stockholm.
--
Charlie...

"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:47:55 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:

Last year, I flew into Stockholm. From there, I got a sleeper cabin on an
overnight train to Umea for $75; definately a great way to go. Flying
into
Umea is also possible, but it adds quite a bit to your plane ticket, and
you
miss a nice rail journey. You can get the tickets at the central train
station in Stockholm easily.

The train sounds interesting. Is it $75 round trip? From what I can
tell it's about $150 for round trip airfare between Stockholm and
Umea. The advantage of flying all the way is that your baggage would
be checked to Umea, so if any of it missed a connection along the way
that's where it would be sent instead of just to Stockholm.

True, but the Swedes are accomodating enough that you could tell them at the
airport to forward your bags to an address in Umea, and I'm sure they'd do
it. Or you could just plan a few layover days in Stockhom 'just in case'.
Its a beautiful city, and well worth spending some time.

I was finding Stockholm/Umea r/t for about $100 last summer, but you had to
get it far in advance.

The train was $75 for the northbound leg, which included a sleeper car that
I shared with 3 other guys. For $90, I could have gotten a private cabin,
with air conditioning (it was a very hot summer. Next year, I'll do that.)
The southbound leg was $50, but it meant a 3 hour bus ride for the first
leg, then a connection to a high-speed train for the last 4 hours into
Stockholm. The train tracks don't actually go into Umea, but they are
constructing it, and it might be done by next summer. Vaughan?

--riverman

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 01:28:35 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:

I was finding Stockholm/Umea r/t for about $100 last summer, but you had to
get it far in advance.

I didn't see any that cheap, but I'll look some more. Far in advance
is no problem - if I decide to come (and bring my sons) I'll want to
get my plane tickets by the end of Feb before the FF award mile
requirements on Delta go up.
--
Charlie...

Stockholm. The train tracks don't actually go into Umea, but they are
constructing it, and it might be done by next summer. Vaughan?

--riverman


I think we will both be old men before they get that finished
mate.............. AND what do you mean - not much sightseeing to do around
Umeå!!!! Just where do you get off slagging off our fair city like that?
:-)))

If you join us again next year I promise not to leave you hanging around the
bus/train station for several hours on a Sunday morning in
summer...........Hopefully the rest of the trip made up for the poor start,
and in my defence, I did have an 800km drive to make that day.

Vaughan

John As a matter of curiosity, what airport would a person be flying
John into and what would then be the next step ... car rental?

As riverman already pointed out, the night train is a great way to
travel, if you have any hope of sleeping on board (jet lag might make
you a bit restless). The railway companies often plan the timetables
so that the train leaves in the evening and arrives early in the
morning (at the main destinations up north). For example, I checked
the train timetables between Stockholm and Umeå this week, and there
is a night train that leaves at 20:28 from Stockholm and arrives at
06:42 in Umeå. If you can sleep, it's really like not traveling at
all: when you arrive, you are completely rested.

John What would the highs and lows be like, weather wise? Gonna need
John those cut little mesh net hats for the black flies?

I would like to point out that in can get pretty cold in the evenings
if we are in the mountain region. I've witnessed -3C, and I've only
been there a couple of times.

Regarding insects, a good mosquito hat is the way to go. Not every
summer is going to be as dry as the last ones we've had - or otherwise
there will be no more rivers in the near future. One of the
Scandinavian fly-fishing equipment companies produces an excellent
"hat". It's sort of a bag which you put over your hat and head, and
attach around your shoulders with elastic bands. I can bring with me a
couple of those if needed.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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Stockholm. The train tracks don't actually go into Umea, but they
are constructing it, and it might be done by next summer.

Is this true? I just checked the timetables at http://www.tagplus.se/
and they do have trains going directly from Stockholm to Umeå
(Stockholm Central - Umeå Central).

--
Jarmo Hurri

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Is this true? I just checked the timetables at http://www.tagplus.se/
and they do have trains going directly from Stockholm to Umeå
(Stockholm Central - Umeå Central).

--
Jarmo Hurri

Jarmo,
As Myron has already mentioned, you can get to Umeå by train, and that can
include actually arriving at the train station. But the train line is a bit
indirect and, not infrequently, it involves changing to the bus in Sundsval.
At least I think that is true, I have never actually taken the train in
Sweden, and I'm not sure why you would actually want to do this, flights in
summer can be pretty cheap. Then again, I hate travelling by train, so I am
not a good judge.

Vaughan