![]() |
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Disney's Anti-Hunting Bias is UnBEARable- (11/26)
Disney's most recent animated feature, "Brother Bear," is following in the anti-hunting footsteps of "Bambi" as it hits theatres in time for the holidays - and hunting seasons. The movie is about a young Native American hunter, Kenai, who is transformed into a bear. He becomes the adoptive father of a cub, only to find that another hunter is stalking him. Daniel Neman, a writer for the Richmond Times-Dispatch in Virginia notes, "the film makes an anti-hunting statement that is out of place for American Indians." In sportsmen's eyes, the Disney flick could not come at a poorer time. This year, sportsmen have been forced to defend bear hunting across the country. The U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance's National Bear Hunting Defense Task Force and other conservation groups rallied hunters to prevent Congress from banning the use of bait to hunt black bears. It is currently working to protect a recently established bear hunt in New Jersey. The Alliance is preparing for campaigns in Maine and Alaska to protect bear hunting from anti-hunting attacks that promise to be on the 2004 ballot. Disney Goes Overboard PETA has modified a film poster from the Disney blockbuster Finding Nemo to promote its anti-fishing campaign. Disney's cartoon fish, Nemo and Marlin, appear on PETA's website and leaflets that read, "Fish are friends, not food!" Take Action! Sportsmen should flood The Walt Disney Company with contacts telling it that allowing PETA use of its Finding Nemo characters is aiding an organization that has spent tens of thousands of dollars paying legal fees for convicted terrorists. Inform the company that PETA is also being investigated for sending $1,500 to the Animal Liberation Front, an underground group identified by the FBI as a domestic terrorist organization. Contact Mr. Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO, The Walt Disney Company, 500 S. Buena Vista St., Burbank, CA, 91521-9722. Phone (818) 560-1000. Fax (818) 560-1930. -- James Ehlers Outdoors Magazine www.outdoorsmagazine.net |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
paranoid drivel snipped
You realize, I would hope, that protesting cartoon characters and their use would leave you and your supporters looking bad. Go hunting, go fishing, and worry about larger issues than Disney's involvement. Has hunting declined since, or due to, the release of Bambi? More to the point, PETA and similar organizations play on the overreaction of their opponents. Don't play their game. Simply stay informed, follow the legislation, stay active, and chill out. Tom |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Don't play their game. Simply stay informed, follow the legislation, stay
active, and chill out. Tom And, of course, refuse to add any money to any Disney coffer and let them know why. I can spend the rest of my life in FL and never feel the need to go to Disney World. -- Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69 |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "Outdoors Magazine" wrote in message et... Disney's Anti-Hunting Bias is UnBEARable- (11/26) Disney's most recent animated feature, "Brother Bear," is following in the anti-hunting footsteps of "Bambi" as it hits theatres in time for the holidays - and hunting seasons. The movie is about a young Native American hunter, Kenai, who is transformed into a bear. He becomes the adoptive father of a cub, only to find that another hunter is stalking him. Daniel Neman, a writer for the Richmond Times-Dispatch in Virginia notes, "the film makes an anti-hunting statement that is out of place for American Indians." In sportsmen's eyes, the Disney flick could not come at a poorer time. This year, sportsmen have been forced to defend bear hunting across the country. The U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance's National Bear Hunting Defense Task Force and other conservation groups rallied hunters to prevent Congress from banning the use of bait to hunt black bears. It is currently working to protect a recently established bear hunt in New Jersey. The Alliance is preparing for campaigns in Maine and Alaska to protect bear hunting from anti-hunting attacks that promise to be on the 2004 ballot. Disney Goes Overboard PETA has modified a film poster from the Disney blockbuster Finding Nemo to promote its anti-fishing campaign. Disney's cartoon fish, Nemo and Marlin, appear on PETA's website and leaflets that read, "Fish are friends, not food!" Take Action! Sportsmen should flood The Walt Disney Company with contacts telling it that allowing PETA use of its Finding Nemo characters is aiding an organization that has spent tens of thousands of dollars paying legal fees for convicted terrorists. Inform the company that PETA is also being investigated for sending $1,500 to the Animal Liberation Front, an underground group identified by the FBI as a domestic terrorist organization. Contact Mr. Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO, The Walt Disney Company, 500 S. Buena Vista St., Burbank, CA, 91521-9722. Phone (818) 560-1000. Fax (818) 560-1930. James Ehlers At first glance, it would appear that you are to be congratulated, Mr. Ehlers. Efforts such as yours on behalf of the anti hunting and fishing movement currently gaining popularity in America, and in much of the rest of the world, would be highly valued were it not for the fact that hunters and fishers are already well represented by imbeciles who cannot legitimately distinguish between their siblings and the mothers of their children. Naturally, the fact that you and your opponents are kissing cousins just adds spice to the mixture. One hardly knows who to shoot first! ![]() Wolfgang |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "slenon" wrote in message .. . Don't play their game. Simply stay informed, follow the legislation, stay active, and chill out. Tom And, of course, refuse to add any money to any Disney coffer and let them know why. I can spend the rest of my life in FL and never feel the need to go to Disney World. One supposes you could spend a multitude of lifetimes in any number of places without giving any of them the sort of examination they deserve.....or need. Wolfgang |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Mr. Wolfgang,
And your remarks are constructive on what level other than in revealing your prejudice and classist attitude? You should be so grateful that your place in the world today has not been overly constrained by socio-economic conditions of generations preceding you. Moreover, this gratitude could and should translate into a willingness to assist those you mock. -- James Ehlers Outdoors Magazine www.outdoorsmagazine.net "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "Outdoors Magazine" wrote in message et... Disney's Anti-Hunting Bias is UnBEARable- (11/26) Disney's most recent animated feature, "Brother Bear," is following in the anti-hunting footsteps of "Bambi" as it hits theatres in time for the holidays - and hunting seasons. The movie is about a young Native American hunter, Kenai, who is transformed into a bear. He becomes the adoptive father of a cub, only to find that another hunter is stalking him. Daniel Neman, a writer for the Richmond Times-Dispatch in Virginia notes, "the film makes an anti-hunting statement that is out of place for American Indians." In sportsmen's eyes, the Disney flick could not come at a poorer time. This year, sportsmen have been forced to defend bear hunting across the country. The U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance's National Bear Hunting Defense Task Force and other conservation groups rallied hunters to prevent Congress from banning the use of bait to hunt black bears. It is currently working to protect a recently established bear hunt in New Jersey. The Alliance is preparing for campaigns in Maine and Alaska to protect bear hunting from anti-hunting attacks that promise to be on the 2004 ballot. Disney Goes Overboard PETA has modified a film poster from the Disney blockbuster Finding Nemo to promote its anti-fishing campaign. Disney's cartoon fish, Nemo and Marlin, appear on PETA's website and leaflets that read, "Fish are friends, not food!" Take Action! Sportsmen should flood The Walt Disney Company with contacts telling it that allowing PETA use of its Finding Nemo characters is aiding an organization that has spent tens of thousands of dollars paying legal fees for convicted terrorists. Inform the company that PETA is also being investigated for sending $1,500 to the Animal Liberation Front, an underground group identified by the FBI as a domestic terrorist organization. Contact Mr. Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO, The Walt Disney Company, 500 S. Buena Vista St., Burbank, CA, 91521-9722. Phone (818) 560-1000. Fax (818) 560-1930. James Ehlers At first glance, it would appear that you are to be congratulated, Mr. Ehlers. Efforts such as yours on behalf of the anti hunting and fishing movement currently gaining popularity in America, and in much of the rest of the world, would be highly valued were it not for the fact that hunters and fishers are already well represented by imbeciles who cannot legitimately distinguish between their siblings and the mothers of their children. Naturally, the fact that you and your opponents are kissing cousins just adds spice to the mixture. One hardly knows who to shoot first! ![]() Wolfgang |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Dear Mr. Littleton,
I will disregard your disrespectful opening comments and proceed. I do not believe it is the cartoon characters that are the issue but rather the Disney Corporation which also owns companies like ABC and ESPN. Perhaps where you live there are not real threats to fishing, but there in many places in this country, including movements to ban catch and release fly fishing. It is not a game. There is a lawsuit in NJ right now to recall all hunting and fishing licenses. It is not a game. Please wake up, not for anyone's sake but yours and your kids. -- James Ehlers Outdoors Magazine www.outdoorsmagazine.net "Tom Littleton" wrote in message ... paranoid drivel snipped You realize, I would hope, that protesting cartoon characters and their use would leave you and your supporters looking bad. Go hunting, go fishing, and worry about larger issues than Disney's involvement. Has hunting declined since, or due to, the release of Bambi? More to the point, PETA and similar organizations play on the overreaction of their opponents. Don't play their game. Simply stay informed, follow the legislation, stay active, and chill out. Tom |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Outdoors Magazine wrote:
Dear Mr. Littleton, I will disregard your disrespectful opening comments and proceed. I do not believe it is the cartoon characters that are the issue but rather the Disney Corporation which also owns companies like ABC and ESPN. What disrespectful opening comments ? You sound like a raving loon, now THERE'S a disrespectful comment. Tom has given you some very sound advice and I will add the following; the URL in your sig doesn't work. -- Ken Fortenberry |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "Outdoors Magazine" wrote in message et... Mr. Wolfgang, And your remarks are constructive on what level other than in revealing your prejudice and classist attitude? Well, Mr. James, that's a real interesting question, that is. In the first place, I'm curious about what prejudice it is you think I've revealed and which classes you believe I've set against one another, but I guess I won't hold my breath waiting for revelation. As to the meat of the question, I think the answer depends to a large extent on what is implicit in it which, in turn, hinges on context. If I understand your position, you maintain that hunting and fishing are worthwhile activities with their own intrinsic merits. Is that about right? Assuming that it is, it might interest you to know that I am a lifelong avid hunter and fisher. Naturally, it follows that unless I am a complete sociopath, I believe those activities to be justifiable on some level beyond merely satisfying my own urges. In other words, we agree on the basic premise underlying your argument....however vapid and counterproductive it's exposition. Now, the question you SHOULD be asking becomes obvious, doesn't it? If you can't convince someone who agrees with your position that your arguments have so much as a shred of merit, then how well do you think you are going to fare in dealing with all those folks who don't? You should be so grateful that your place in the world today has not been overly constrained by socio-economic conditions of generations preceding you. As you should be grateful for the existence of anyone willing to expend the time and energy required to sift through that jumbled mass of randomly selected words in a search for meaning, and especially so when, as was predictable, the search proved fruitless. Moreover, this gratitude could and should translate into a willingness to assist those you mock. Oh, you haven't seen much in the way of mockery yet, and the assistance that has been rendered was surely as wasted as it was opaque to you. In the end, the issue of whether or not hunting and fishing will continue to be practiced in this country will not be decided by anyone willing to look the matter rationally, but rather by people like yourself. Wolfgang |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
James Ehlers notes:
Perhaps where you live there are not real threats to fishing, but there in many places in this country, including movements to ban catch and release fly fishing. I am perfectly aware of such movements. At present, few regard them with any seriousness whatsoever, despite the fact that Bambi has aired for close to three generations. Hyperbolic overreaction is the only thing that could make such movements blossom into a true threat, as the public could then develop the idea that outdoorsmen(and women) are as irrational as the opposition. Tom |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
More Anti Movies from Disney | Outdoors Magazine | Bass Fishing | 38 | December 1st, 2003 11:52 PM |
More Anti Movies from Disney | RGarri7470 | Bass Fishing | 0 | November 27th, 2003 12:29 PM |
More Anti Movies from Disney | Outdoors Magazine | General Discussion | 0 | November 26th, 2003 08:30 PM |
Disney joins forces with pro-fish activists | Outdoors Magazine | General Discussion | 7 | November 5th, 2003 04:05 PM |
Disney joins forces with pro-fish activists | Outdoors Magazine | Bass Fishing | 17 | November 2nd, 2003 01:24 AM |